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Old 01-26-2010, 03:08 AM   #1
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Question Mugen Tsukiyomi

As Madara explained:
Mugen Tsukiyomi - is the most powerful illusion ever, the ability to project his eyes into the moon and can control everyone on Earth..

Just one question, what happens when the sun comes up?
Seriously, how it will work??
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

lol. good question
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

seriously, i really dunno how Madara or maybe Kishi will pull this one..
well, there are a lot of genius here, maybe they can elucidate way further beyond my imagination..
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

loooooooooool imagine if madara forgot to consider that

when the sun comes up everyone in the world is pissed off and goes after him

maybe madara's lying?
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

I'm still wondering how an illusion can be casted on an inanimate object...
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

Mugen Tsyukoyomi is like Television.
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

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loooooooooool imagine if madara forgot to consider that

when the sun comes up everyone in the world is pissed off and goes after him

maybe madara's lying?
i know he's a liar but i don't think on this one..
but Mugen Tsukiyomi is possible though, coz we all know, either night or day the moon is there..

Moon's light is nothing but reflected light from the sun.
A secondary source, since it only reflects the sun's light and does not generate its own. The sun would be a primary source.
During daytime, a certain place is pointed toward the Sun. Soon, after Earth rotates, that certain place is just like moving away from the Sun, then it is night. Simply bcoz, the Earth in reality is round, but i dunno if it is same in Narutoverse.
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I'm still wondering how an illusion can be casted on an inanimate object...
maybe the moon is just like a tool(can't find exact word) for the Mugen Tsukiyomi, i mean like a mirror..

Think of the Madara as a light bulb casting genjutsu on the moon, and the Moon as a mirror, reflecting genjutsu from Madara casting it to everyone on Earth.
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

... this is a good question. The only theory that I can make is that, perhaps once you're in the Tsukuyomi, you're in it for good, regardless of where the moon is.
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

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It's a good question, since Mugen Tsukuyomi is vulnerable to solar and lunar eclipses and new moons. Since I don't have a clue about Kishimoto's astronomy knowledge, if he does things right (Mugen Tsukuyomi time lasting on the victim>time being cast), then those events won't matter. If he does things wrong (time being cast=time lasting on thee victim) some people will very, VERY pissed off.
the answer here will lie on Naruto's world, either flat or round..
If Kishi created the Naruto's world as flat (just speculating), then Mugen Tsukiyomi most probably fail during daytime coz the moon is going up and down..

well, if it's round then Mugen Tsukiyomi most probably fail during eclipses as you've said.
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

ah i wonder if madaras tsykiomi can control time like itachis?

if it can who cares if it fails when the sun comes up

3 seconds = a day...if the moon is visible for 12 hours then how many years is that in tsykiomi world?
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maybe the moon is just like a tool(can't find exact word) for the Mugen Tsukiyomi, i mean like a mirror..

Think of the Madara as a light bulb casting genjutsu on the moon, and the Moon as a mirror, reflecting genjutsu from Madara casting it to everyone on Earth.
I know the concept behind it, reflecting the genjutsu...

But when a person uses a genjutsu, they apply their chakra flow into their opponent's mental nervous system and controls their five senses, making them feel pain, see things that don't exist, or make them go through great emotional trauma.

When Sasuke over powered Itachi's Tsukuyomi, Itachi suffered side effects, that would mean Itachi has to manually focus his genjutsu until his opponent shatters. How would the moon hold the genjutsu charge? Unless Madara has to, for the rest of his life, look up at the moon for all time...lol
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ah i wonder if madaras tsykiomi can control time like itachis?

if it can who cares if it fails when the sun comes up

3 seconds = a day...if the moon is visible for 12 hours then how many years is that in tsykiomi world?
you have good point there, if Madara can bend the time(like Hiro Nakamura of Heroes) then it's really possible..
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I know the concept behind it, reflecting the genjutsu...

But when a person uses a genjutsu, they apply their chakra flow into their opponent's mental nervous system and controls their five senses, making them feel pain, see things that don't exist, or make them go through great emotional trauma.

When Sasuke over powered Itachi's Tsukuyomi, Itachi suffered side effects, that would mean Itachi has to manually focus his genjutsu until his opponent shatters. How would the moon hold the genjutsu charge? Unless Madara has to, for the rest of his life, look up at the moon for all time...lol
One option is, creating one or two Bunshins, splitting his infinite source of chakra(Juubi's chakra), then stare at the moon for a lifetime or maybe forever.. just a thought, maybe a little far fetched..but it will surely work..
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Re: Mugen Tsukiyomi

Well, the moon orbits Earth at a speed of 2,288 miles per hour and takes about 27 +/-days to complete. Since it goes counter clockwise, we can see it twice a day.

I don't know how kishi will pull this one off.
First Tobi would have to get 8 & 9 tails, which means killing the main charater(even if they could bring him back)
Then awaken a demon that no one could control & control it.
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