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Old 02-12-2010, 09:07 PM   #91
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Re: 483 predictions/spoiler discussion

Yeah that's exactly what I mean. Once he and Sasuke fight, which should definitely happen soon, he will realize that as Hokage he needs more power. If he can't beat Sasuke, he won't even stand a chance against Madara. I don't know that Sasuke would wipe out Kakashi easily, but I believe he would win.
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Sasuke has superior control over his MS,
How so Kakashi had his longer and has shown that he can easily activate it now and use it efficiently so much that he is able to put away a fast small object moving away from him. His Mks jutsu also shits on sasuke's (excluding susanoo though i still wonder if he can open the hole inside susanoo).
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and a wider range of techniques.
all he has are chidori variations and some weak ass katon which he doesn't even use anymore.
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a narrow range of techniques, most which Sasuke uses.
WAT!!!!!!!! what narrow range the guy has 3 elements and knows way more jutsu then sasuke he can pick any few he deems needed.. his chakra is a minus but his brain and battle strategy more then makes up for that, not to mention his taijutsu is also better since it rivals gai's.
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How so Kakashi had his longer and has shown that he can easily activate it now and use it efficiently so much that he is able to put away a fast small object moving away from him. His Mks jutsu also shits on sasuke's (excluding susanoo though i still wonder if he can open the hole inside susanoo). Debatable till proven otherwise. all he has are chidori variations and some weak ass katon which he doesn't even use anymore. WAT!!!!!!!! what narrow range the guy has 3 elements and knows way more jutsu then sasuke he can pick any few he deems needed.. his chakra is a minus but his brain and battle strategy more then makes up for that, not to mention his taijutsu is also better since it rivals gai's.
...Kakashi has Kamui...that's it. Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, Amateraus and Susanno and has far more stamina with his MS.

No... Sasuke is faster, his speed against Deidera has shown him to be fast. Kakashi has never had his speed accentuated.

When was the last time he used his SG in such a way? Against Zabuza??

Sasuke's taijutsu is very well-rounded as well, not sure if it's better than Kakashi, but it's negligible anyways. This would be a genjutsu, ninjutsu fight.
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i like most of the predictions, but theyre too fast paced. I dont think any fights will happen. Kishi likes to escalate the plot a little, maybe 2-3 chapters, and then plateaus for about 5-10 chapters.
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Kakashi is known for his speed though...

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...0/page008.html

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http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...0/page014.html

I know more emphasis on Kakashi's speed was mentioned elsewhere... Probably some where in Part one, or something...

I think Sasuke and Kakashi's speeds are comparable... Though, Sasuke uses body flicker to make himself seem untouchable (Madara confirmed it)...

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...7/page011.html

But, considering Sasuke has more stamina/chakra with his sharingan activated, he probably can keep up his instantaneous movement a lot longer in combat than Kakashi could...

I say if Sasuke didn't have the Mangekyou sharingan, Kakashi would have a good chance to beat him... But now that Sasuke has and can spam Susano-o and Amaterasu, Kakashi shouldn't last too long as he doesn't have counters for those...
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He can't counter amaterasu thats' pretty sad you said this considering all it take is a fucking Substitution jutsu..

As for Susanoo, if Kamui can rip a hole inside it because afterall why not its just kakashi using his mks technique to tear a hole in space itself then he can force sasuke outt of sussano and using a strategy he prob would already think of can then capitlize.

Not saying it would go down like this but in theory if kamui can rip space inside susanoo then yes kakashi has a chance in beating him. Still that lack of chakra hurts kakashi's chances.

as for tsukuyomi rofll that shit is so insignificant its not even worth mentioning...

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@ TSO Good finds. Yeah kakashi's fast. That's why were criticizing kyf prediction where he has kakashi get blitzed out of nowhere.

I'd say if madara is bragging on his speed it's far better then average. Not saying he's anywhere near the fastest, but he's on the short list.

Although I think madara may have been messing around with sasuke during the deidara fight. Since he was in his tobi persona so he couldn't go all out without deidara realizing he's not the idiot he appears to be. I don't think he'd wanted to blow his cover just yet. Sasuke definitely hit him though (or rather phased through him) but if madara were serious theirs a possibility he could have avoided it.
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@ TSO Good finds. Yeah kakashi's fast. That's why were criticizing kyf prediction where he has kakashi get blitzed out of nowhere.

I'd say if madara is bragging on his speed it's far better then average. Not saying he's anywhere near the fastest, but he's on the short list.

Although I think madara may have been messing around with sasuke during the deidara fight. Since he was in his tobi persona so he couldn't go all out without deidara realizing he's not the idiot he appears to be. I don't think he'd wanted to blow his cover just yet. Sasuke definitely hit him though (or rather phased through him) but if madara were serious theirs a possibility he could have avoided it.
If you wanna bring madara into this he also commented on how fast kakashi was...
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...0/page008.html
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considering all it take is a fucking Substitution jutsu..
Well it's not that simple really... Substitution is basically quickly switching your person with an object... Amaterasu wouldn't be fooled that easily... Orochimaru's technique was hard to detect because it sheds one's skin... Sasuke was hit with Amaterasu... Once he's hit, he can break out of his old shell (which took the damage for Sasuke)...

Unless Kakashi has an advanced substitution like that, avoiding Amatearsu would be kind of problematic, unless Kakashi could quickly put up a doton wall... I say from close range, Sasuke has the advantage with Amaterasu, but from long range, Kakashi might be able to defend against it...
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Well it's not that simple really... Substitution is basically quickly switching your person with an object... Amaterasu wouldn't be fooled that easily... Orochimaru's technique was hard to detect because it sheds one's skin... Sasuke was hit with Amaterasu... Once he's hit, he can break out of his old shell (which took the damage for Sasuke)...

Unless Kakashi has an advanced substitution like that, avoiding Amatearsu would be kind of problematic, unless Kakashi could quickly put up a doton wall... I say from close range, Sasuke has the advantage with Amaterasu, but from long range, Kakashi might be able to defend against it...
Kirabi used a simple sub as well tentacle so yeah lol it works..
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You wrote itachi's crow genjutsu kiddo its not the same thing, itachi's crow genjutsu is an actual genjutsu casted from his finger or regular sharingan a speicla genjutsu he can use. .. sasuke just used tsukuyomi to mirror that image of itachi using crows. I think you get what im saying..
Im sorry, but where did it say sasuke used Tsukuyomi?? Last I checked it just said genjutsu.

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Again stop comparing a sick dying itachi to how sasuke matched with him and when didn't kakashi keep up with a 30% itachi in speed??? the only time kakashi couldn't keep up was in part 1 thats itachi was healthy though and not dying like the 1 sasuke fought...


Do u even read the manga?? Madara said itachis been sick for a while now and uses drugs to prolong his life and ability to fight so dont get get confused about itachis movements against kakashi vs sasuke because there was only a difference in stamina, not speed. Ur just too bias to admit how fast sasuke truely is.

The only time itachis movements were called into question was when sasuke hit itachi with his explosive shadow shurikan. However, even sasuke recognised itachis slowed reflexes from the side effects of tsukuyomi. Then to confirm this even more. Despite being able to dodge 3tail KB without too much effort. After using Tsukuyomi he was hit with an attack he'd already shown he can dodge so enough already with sick itachi this, sick itachi that.

Sasuke>kakashi in speed!!!!!

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manga feats sasuke is fast as shit no doubt but still till they mtach up we won't know cause, kakashi only couldn't keep up with part 1 itachi who was healthy and sasuke could keep up with part 2 dying /sick itachi.. who's movements were not the same as when he's healthy...
Again, what manga are u reading. Madara said itachi was sick for a while/long time which means more then three years. He just used medicine to prolong his life and ability to fight.

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Idc about the rest of what you wrote cause its prob useless dribble, but yes that's about it so ima go ahead and put you on the ignore list again cause u still lack the "skill" to have an intellectual debate without seeing things from 1 point and stating shit that makes no sense yet calling it fact...
Ha Haaaaaaaaa. Sure, put up ur pathetic front that I didnt shit on ur (MS sasuke<CS sasuke in skill) comment and run.

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Now now what's making your blood boil mate I only said your predictions were too one-sided and if you would just read it again you would see what i'm saying lol btw i dont need to reply to all those bullshit about raikage's speed cos i clearly didn't say anything about that and i didnt even say anything about naruto and one last thing if you actually check my posts i'm never biased that because i know what its like to be both a sasuke and naruto fan,so i commend anyone of them that deserves it and speak ill of anyone one that also deserves it.
U have to understand that I wrote a prediction that seemed plausible IMO by current circumstances and manga feats (in kakashi vs sasuke). U say I predicted the fight to be one sided, but how else do u think I should have written it? Sasukes far beyond kakashi now so sasuke dominating in 1 exchange which is all they had in my prediction is just too plausible at this point. I could have written kakashi was able to compete with one SG, lesser speed and resolve to kill. But that wouldve been silly seeing as how sasukes finally reached the point hes passed itachi who kakashi couldnt compete with very long.

I brought up the raikage speed because in some of the other predictions naruto was somehow arriving just as kakashi did which could only mean narutos the fastest in the manga all the sudden. i was just trying to point out ur blind eye to that little fact while criticizing my prediction of sasuke vs kakashi which is so plausible its only a matter of time before it comes to pass IMO.

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funny thing is he thinks genjutsu would actually work on kakashi when its painfully obvious and CONFIRMED sasuke is still a fucking amateur with it. and his tsukuyomi is garbage.
Lol, I agree. Sasukes so bad with genjutsu Oro took over his body because his genjutsu sucked. Then when sasuke fought itachi he wasnt able to keep up or break out of a more powerful genjutsu.

And I also agree sasuke tsukuyomi is garbage in comparison to itachis. However, sasukes garbage tsu would still utterly ass rape SM naruto and kakashi.
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Killer Bee got hit with Amaterasu while he was in Beast mode... When Sasuke used chidori spear to cut off a tentacle, Killer Bee just waited until Sasuke canceled Amaterasu... That's when Killer Bee did the switcheroo with the tentacle that was cut off...
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If you wanna bring madara into this he also commented on how fast kakashi was...
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]@ TSO Good finds. Yeah kakashi's fast. That's why were criticizing kyf prediction where he has kakashi get blitzed out of nowhere.
Lol, Itachi blitzed kakashi as well so whats with the criticizm. Sasuke even blitzed a 100% clone of itachis while kakashi had to try his damndest to compete with a 30%.

Seriously, how is this even be debated.

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I'd say if madara is bragging on his speed it's far better then average. Not saying he's anywhere near the fastest, but he's on the short list.
Madara was taunting kakashi. He knew they couldnt do anything to him if he didnt want them too. Trying to show kakashis speed by madaras taunt isnt proof, its sad.

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Although I think madara may have been messing around with sasuke during the deidara fight. Since he was in his tobi persona so he couldn't go all out without deidara realizing he's not the idiot he appears to be. I don't think he'd wanted to blow his cover just yet. Sasuke definitely hit him though (or rather phased through him) but if madara were serious theirs a possibility he could have avoided it.
Say what lol. So, Tobi was playing with sasuke, but not kakashi even though he was still in his tobi persona because he didnt know they knew he was madara. Madara even after explained he knew there was no attack they could use that would hurt him, just taunting even morehttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...0/page009.html

Lol, if were comparing madara compliments in speed then sasuke wins that toohttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...7/page011.html

Lol, kakashis fast, but sasukes too fast. Not that madaras compliments prove anything. Just yalls own evidence has been proven null.

Just explain to me why kakashis having trouble with a 30% clone and sasukes blitzing a 100% clone with ease???
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