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Old 04-26-2010, 10:32 AM   #91
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

hm madara would be lame, because several times was mentioned that tobi is madara.

maybe it is the first ninja with the rinnegan.

but a off-topic question : do you think the name "tobi" has any meaning? seems not very japanese to me.
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Old 04-26-2010, 01:42 PM   #92
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

i wonder if the coffin kabuto summoned, was one in the same as the third one orochimaru tried to summon. (Don't tell me it was the 4th hokage, i've heard enough bologne)
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:44 PM   #93
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

WOAH! HEY! WOAH!

I have an IDEA!

...What if...

IZUNA is behind the mask and MADARA is in the coffin?!!!

Naw...

Maybe...

Hmmmm....
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Old 04-27-2010, 09:47 AM   #94
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

Oh oh oh! i got it! Tobi with an extra o spells obito!! LOL jk

No at this point i dont really care. Im actually sick of tobi. At first when he said he is madara i was like oh hell yeah the baddest evilest uchiha man this is gonna be sweet but now... He just seems like a little bitch always running or making someone else fight. Id rather get this madara tobi thing out of the way and get to kabuto who is the real villian.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:16 AM   #95
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

its either the fourth hokage or maybe he brought back the third hokage.
if u think about theres a small possiblity thats its madaras real body.
cause if madara is anything like orchimaru he maybe be using differant bodies like to keep him self alive since his body proably died a long time ago.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:46 AM   #96
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

I somehow get the feeling that the person in the coffin is someone we have not seen before and is probably the only other person besides Hashirama to have beaten Madara...
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:04 PM   #97
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

Edo Tensei is said to attach the souls of the dead to the summoned body right? Well everyone would still have their soul in their own body unless they were dead, under normal circumstances. But if Madara is not in his original body, and if Kabuto was a ble to find his original body, I would think that Kabuto could summon his soul back to it's original body.

Also, The death god is a jutsu that is said to trap the user's soul for an eternity of battling. Well in death alone the user's soul is trapped for eternity, just in peace. Of course if an eternity of battling is the terms of using the jutsu then the soul itself woulnt be able to escape. If I "trap" somebody in a "inescapeable" titanium box that they "cannot escape from", that doesnt mean that somebody cannot come along and free them from the outside.

I believe that a jutsu that summons a soul from beyond the grave can possibly summon a soul from the Death God as well. Or maybe Orochumaru couldnt but that is where Kabuto "improved it". Maybe Kishi didnt "allow" Orochu to summon the 4th because he was saving that summoning for Kabuto. Maybe the 4th is in that coffin. Just becaus one jutsu says this is how I work, doesnt mean another jutsu cannot undo what was done by that jutsu. A person's soul taken by the Death God still makes the person dead, and Edo Tensei summons the soul of the dead back to the human world, and into a body. I think it's possible, but I still think Madara is in the coffin
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

It is perfectly reasonable to think that The 4th is in the coffin. When oro was fighting the 3rd, three coffins were summoned. the first two were the 1st and 2nd hokage. 3rd stopped the other coffin from being summoned completely. He said that he "must stop the last coffin from opening at all costs." What does that tell you? Even oro could summon the 4th hokage.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:29 PM   #99
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

i have a little theory of my own and i don't know if anyone else mentioned it because i refuse to read through all of these pages right now lol. anyway. i was thinking that maybe we are assuming that the person in that coffin was dead. maybe kabuto didn't summon anybody and he just showed him a clue or something. I believe that tobi is a tool used by zetsu. some people may disagree but i've said it before that since we know zetsu's abilities it could be possible that he either touched the real madara or something like that. Anyway i believe that tobi is just someone that zetsu has around posing as madara.

another thing...look at zetsu, he is obviously the descendant of some kind of special bloodline so more details may come out about him. yes tobi told the white version of zetsu he was weak in a round about way and the black zetsu told the white version the same. I know im not explaining this like i want to because im at work. in a nutshell what im saying is i think kabuto picked up one of those white zetsu bodies that were laying around after the kage summit and put it in a coffin. so instead of it being an actual dead body in there it was zetsu's body and that's why tobi was like how did you get this.

another thing. don't forget that kabuto is leading the leaf to tobi's hideout. the mystery behind kabuto is just getting started.
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It is perfectly reasonable to think that The 4th is in the coffin. When oro was fighting the 3rd, three coffins were summoned. the first two were the 1st and 2nd hokage. 3rd stopped the other coffin from being summoned completely. He said that he "must stop the last coffin from opening at all costs." What does that tell you? Even oro could summon the 4th hokage.
no.... not even a chance. you are reading the same manga right? reaper deal seals away souls to fight eternally in the in the death gods stomach(w/e the translation is) those "souls" cannot come back. therefore no... none of them will be in the coffin as i posted earlier...
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it cant be, the 1st hokage, the 2nd, the 3rd, the 4th, orochimaru... they're all sealed within the reaper death seal tech(minus oro)....... the 3rd took the 1st and 2nd with him against orochimaru when he used edo tensei..., the 4th during the kyuubi attack.

As for orochimaru, well itachi took care of him in an eternal genjutsu from the sword of totsuka with susanoo......

so no i dont believe its any of them because they cant come back and if they do, kishi better have one damn good explaination........
this is another good possibility.. someone we've never seen before

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I somehow get the feeling that the person in the coffin is someone we have not seen before and is probably the only other person besides Hashirama to have beaten Madara...

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Old 04-28-2010, 12:56 PM   #101
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

remeber guys it takes the soul not the body and the inpure resurection jutsu needs a sacrife in order to work. so kabuto may have improved his tec to the point were he needs less sacs so that he can summon the dead back to life. its possible that its madara's body, because all of us dont now for sure if madara has his real body or not. the person in that coffin can be almost anybody.
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Old 04-29-2010, 07:54 PM   #102
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

For some reason, I just don't feel like Kabuto will be the last villain. I want him to be, but I just don't think he will.
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no.... not even a chance. you are reading the same manga right? reaper deal seals away souls to fight eternally in the in the death gods stomach those "souls" cannot come back. therefore no... none of them will be in the coffin as i posted earlier...
First of all, there is no proof that that is that exact technique that the 4th used to seal away the kyuubi in Naruto. If it was, then the kyuubi would have been sealed inside Minato instead of half in Naruto. Nobody knows what kind of variation of the technique (or different jutsu all together) was used by the 4th on the day of the 9-tails attack.

Secondly, you cant beat how obvious it was that Oro tried to summon the 4th hokage. 1st coffin = 1st hokage, 2nd coffin = 2nd hokage, (they are fighting the 3rd hokage) and 3rd coffin would have been the 4th hokage is the 3rd hadnt freaked and done everything he could to keep it from being summoned
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Old 05-03-2010, 01:39 PM   #104
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Re: Who is in the coffin?!?!?!?!

the fourth new a way to transfer a persons soul into another body and if u remeber when naruto meet his father. the fourth told him that madara saw through every move he made so maybe madara nows a way to transfer a person soul from there body into anothers body and thats how madara's alive. if thats true then it would be possible for kabuto to bring back madara's body.
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the fourth new a way to transfer a persons soul into another body and if u remeber when naruto meet his father. the fourth told him that madara saw through every move he made.
Where does it say that the 4th developed a way to transfer souls? The only thing that minato was telling Naruto about was that the man in Akatsuki with the mask was the real leader and the one who was responsible for the 9-tails attack in the first place.

It was never indicated that Minato ever has an actual confrontation with Tobi, only that he made his discovery before getting rid of the 9-tails
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