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Old 06-30-2010, 04:16 PM   #1
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Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

Madara Uchiha, the one who could summon the kyuubi and control it at a whim. Could he of been the Kyuubis first Jinchurrici? I believe its possible and will also explain why he uses only 1 eye and where the yang half of the Kyuubi has gone.

What if Madara sealed the Kyuubi in himself. However, unlike RS and the other Jinchurrici through the ages. Madara sealed the Kyuubi in his eyes.

The EMS:

Yin/Light half of the Kyuubi went in his amaterasu eye (represents the light and material world)

The Yang/dark half went in his tsukuyomi eye (represents the darkness and shadow world or something like that)

Thus, such a thing caused his EMS powers to be increased 100, 000 fold, but there was a catch. When he fought harishima, he could not freely use the Kyuubi/EMS powers because harishima could supress them totally canceling the kyuubis power and thus his EMS as well.

At the end of the fight. Harishima managed to capture the Yin half of the Kyuubis chakra, thus taking away madaras EMS power of that eye as well. And from what weve heard.
Harishima sealed that power in his wife


And now we have madara with only his tsukuyomi EMS eye and a SG stripped of its EMS power and kyuubi yang half which is why it can create this sealing vortex that allows madara to take in anything or anyone into his bijuu sealing deminsionhttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/467/09/
And just like narutos and KBs deminsion it seems endless(narutos jinchurrici deminsion)http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/499/01/
and KBshttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/419/14/

and just like narutos seal design that captures his bijuu and holdshttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/499/14/
another anglehttp://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/439/11/

Does that seal look familiar?http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/453/01/

So somehow madara (or the yang half of the Kyuubi who now runs things and exists completely through madaras yang half EMS eye in a zetsu clone body) has found a way to use minatos/harishimas seal jutsu in order to physicly seal anything into his empty SG he wants, instead of only sealing a bijuu.

And since we all know that http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/467/10/
Harishima did seriously wound madara/ w/e he is. Leaving him to desire being complete again, as well as achieve perfection through the juubi.

Madara, the first Kyuubi jinchurrici however now is dead and the power of his left eye has taken on a consciousness of its own and is mascarading as him in a zetsu clone trying to regain its other half as well as its other 8 piece as well.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:19 PM   #2
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

did you even read the spoilers...?
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:20 PM   #3
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

IMO it's a no but hey who knows though I hope it stays a no.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:26 PM   #4
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

i think you're stretching a bit there kyf

some of it may be true

something that may be of interest to your theory


remember when kushina said her chakras are special and then turned out she was the previous jink

well madara also said the same
he told sasuke his chakra was special even amongst the uchiha

but i thought the spoilers reveal that mito was the 1st kyubii jink
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

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did you even read the spoilers...?
Most of them yea. WHy?? I didnt see any reference to the yang half of the Kyuubi.


EDIT: NOOOOOO, Mito was the first KNOWN kyuubi jinchurrici, but its more likly that madara Uchiha who harishima had to of gotten the Kyuubi from was the original jinc. We will find out when all is revealed about the harishima madara battle.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:27 PM   #6
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

i think he means that mito was the 1st kyubii jink so madara isnt
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

*Sigh*

And the kyuubi was the strongest bijuu until about 30 chapters ago so clearly until all secrets are revealed. This one is still up for grabs IMO.
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Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

Madara used EMS to control Kyuubi... then Mito sealed it inside herself. I kinda doubt she could do that if Madara was already the jinchuuriki.
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Madara used EMS to control Kyuubi... then Mito sealed it inside herself. I kinda doubt she could do that if Madara was already the jinchuuriki.
Did u even read the theory??

I clearly stated madara (who first controlled the Kyuubi before anyone) became its Jinchurric however place seal it in his eyes.

Yin/light half in his amaterasu EMS eye.

and yang/dark half in his tsukuyomi EMS eye.

However, harishima managed to extract the yin half from his amaterasu eye which caused his EMS powers of that eye to go with it which is why he has a regular SG and it can SEAL things in it with that sealing vortex that leads to what looks like a bijuu deminsion in a jinchurrici.

Reread the theory.
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
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so "Reality" could be nothing more....
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

Well it's a nice theory, i hope it not happens anyway, but just a note, it's Hashirama the name of the 1st hokage, not Harishima just so some ppl won't get confused like i did
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

oh yeah, I forgot the part where Madara has used Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi... oh wait
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

The problem with your theory is that we don't know what Madara's EMS abilities were. We know he can control the 9 tails with his EMS, and that he has an ability similar to Kakashi's Kamui ability, that's all. He hasn't been shown to be able to use Susanoo/Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi at any point in the series.

Amaterasu was originally Itachi's EMS technique. He gave the ability to Sasuke just before he died.
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oh yeah, I forgot the part where Madara has used Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi... oh wait
Lol, So Madara Uchiha DIDNT have the EMS?? He wasnt capapble of amaterasu, tsukuyomi or even sasanoo with his accended Eternal MS, not even the regular blinding MS??

What fucking manga are u reading buddy? Its common knowledge madara had the Eternal Mangekyou sharingan u dunce. And the only three known jutsu of that eternal version is amaterasu, tsukuyomi and sasanoo. So yes, Im sure he did use the damn jutsu, not just play power up with no intention of using that said power

Better question: Why would it even matter wether hes used them or not?? Madara splitting the kyuubi sealing the yin half in his amaterasu eye and yang half in his tsukuyomi eye isnt so hard to believe.

especially since the yang half is missing, madara has an empty SG with a super T/S sealing ability and madara does still have his tsukuyomi MS power otherwise he wouldnt be able to use "Muge tsukuyomi" when he gets the juubis power. He would need tsukuyomi first which he clearly still possesses.
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:59 PM   #14
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

It's well thought out, and if it did end up happening, I don't see any HUGE plotholes. However, in all honesty, I REALLY doubt it went down that way. Plus, your picture of Madara phasing to where Sasuke is doesn't really defend anything, considering there are other things Kishi drew that have had some sort of resemblance to one another.

The rest of it works and makes enough sense to be plausible, but it's doubtful.

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He rarely spells names right.
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Re: Madara, the Original Kyuubi Jinchurrici...

gee, I wonder why Kakashi has Kamui and Madara has his warping if the ONLY techniques MS are allowed to have are Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo?

maybe because THE TECHNIQUES DIFFER FROM PERSON TO PERSON?! *gasp*
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