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Old 06-19-2010, 06:13 PM   #1
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how did he get it

well I was thinking over the past couple of chapters and when kushina said she was the previous nine tails jink
well my question is if the forth sealed the kyuubi with his and kushinas chakra how did tobi/who ever the hell he is get the kyuubi out of kushina to use it without killing her first
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:32 PM   #2
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Re: how did he get it

He could have just "made her transform", like Naruto did against Pain, maybe using genjutsu or something. Kyuubi being "out" similar to how the 1 tails was against Naruto, but Kushina still in there. Maybe if the seal is broken and the Kyuubi gets out, the jinjuriki is lost within Kyuubi forever, like those souls seem to be. Maybe now Madara can control Kyuubi while Kushina is helpess as Naruto was when Kyuubi almost got his 9th tail. Minato couldnt force Kyuubi back in her, and therefore used some of her chakra, still inside of Kyuubi/her, and and in the only option to defeat Kyuubi and "save her" from this, he put her spirit/soul and chakra in the seal with Naruto to save the day, and protect his wife and his son in the future the only way that he could.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:10 AM   #3
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Re: how did he get it

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they didn't "get it out of her" they forced her into transforming, i.e. going 9 tails and losing control. This is what makes Minato sealing the Kyuubi in Naruto such a big event. It means that Minato ripped the Kyuubi out of Kushina which killed her.
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Re: how did he get it

i didnt believe she was the previous nine tails jink, i didnt see how it all fit in. looking forward to hearing her side of the story and getting some clarity on how things played out.
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Re: how did he get it

Tobi/Madara most likely casted a genjutsu on Kushina which caused her to loss control over the Kyuubi. The Kyuubi took this opportunity to take over Kushinas body. I doubt the Kyuubi was actually extracted from Kushina.
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Re: how did he get it

maybe madara did take the nine tails out of the 4th baby mama idk but i have a feeling that thats who kabuto (how ever you spell his name) bought back to life in the other coffin.i wish this manga would end already before i get shipped out over seas

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Old 06-22-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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maybe madara did take the nine tails out of the 4th baby mama idk but i have a feeling that thats who kabuto (how ever you spell his name) bought back to life in the other coffin.i wish this manga would end already before i get shipped out over seas
I'm sticking with the Kyuubi overtook her and she helped seal the Kyuubi from inside with Minato sealing from the outside and that is why part of her chakra and sould were trapped. I'm still hoping she has the other half of the Kyuubi's chakra. If not where the hell did it go.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they didn't "get it out of her" they forced her into transforming, i.e. going 9 tails and losing control. This is what makes Minato sealing the Kyuubi in Naruto such a big event. It means that Minato ripped the Kyuubi out of Kushina which killed her.
Most plausible explanation thus far...i would only change one thing...i think minato sealed the kyubi through kushina some how verses ripping it out of her...ripping sounds so mean...not minato style...
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Most plausible explanation thus far...i would only change one thing...i think minato sealed the kyubi through kushina some how verses ripping it out of her...ripping sounds so mean...not minato style...
Yeah, I am sure the seriousness of the situation and what Minato and Kushina had to go through together will be shown in the next chapter. It seems like people are missing what it means for what Minato had to do. He knew removing the Kyuubi would ultimately mean the death of Kushina.
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:00 PM   #10
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Re: how did he get it

im agreeing with everyone that thinks madara just casted genjutsu on kushina or he entered her inner mind like what sasuke did to naruto. which we still dont how that happened. he enter her mind and casted a genjutsu on the kyubi or he just removed the seal she had if she had any.
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:19 PM   #11
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Im not so sure about the genjutsu thing myself. He could have just simply pissed Kushina off really bad to make her go Kyuubi. When Naruto fought Pain he almost went fully Kyuubified just off of sheer anger. I feel like Tobi's bitch ass tried to fuck with baby Naruto and pissed off Kushina so bad she got all Kyuubified and became his 9 Tailed Bitch. Minato, using both his and Kushina's chakra seals up the Fox inside baby Naruto thus making him the new Kyuubi Jink. Thats like the equivalent of the US losing a few nukes (Kushina) and the President (Minato). With Konoha's military strength all fucked up from this and nothing to show from this but a baby Jink they cant even use yet. Not to mention Tobi/Madara/whoever the fuck he is probably dipped off like a little bitch in the aftermath, leaving the village to believe that the Kyuubi was a natural disaster OR that Naruto was the cause of all of it which made the whole village hate his little ass for no reason.
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Well Minato told naruoto that he faught Tobi and nothing he did worked on him so my guess is Minato interfered with Tobi's plans...on the other hand Itachi stated that Tobi was defeated by Minato so that would have meant Minato did defeat Tobi. Either or Kishi has some explaining to do if this is going to work itself out where it makes sense to the readers...
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Re: how did he get it

assuming tobi is not madara. i think he (tobi) angered kushina to the point of her losing control and attacking the village blindly. the story could go like this: minato and kushina were fighting to protect the village from tobi and tobi somehow pissed kushina off to the point of going all 9 tails, she never had control of the beast like naruto does now so the fox took complete control. the fourth then sealed both her, the fox, and himself in naruto. if you look at it as a reversal of roles, kushina still existed only she was the one on the inside and the fox was now on the outside. so she would never cease to exist she just wasn't in control of the body at that point. so sealing the fox meant sealing her in naruto as well. that's it in a nutshell.

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kushina could have been capturued, manipulated by tobi and lost control of her temper and went full 9 tails, then tobi brought a pissed off fox to the village and attacked it, minato then sealed the fox along with kushina, and himself inside of naruto.

im going with the first theory or something like it. since she was a jinch it and the wife of the fourth hokage all tobi had to do was piss her off and make her run rampid in the village. Im assuming that tobi is someone both of them knew. IMO tobi isn't madara and that makes a better story. whomever he is, he is a very cunning opponent and has planned well ahead.

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Old 06-22-2010, 09:50 PM   #14
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It would make sense if Kushina lost control and was then sealed into Naruto after she ahd transformed. That way, she would be in Naruto's head along with the Fox...and Minato...and Itachi...
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I'm with the majority on this one and think she was forced some how to loose control and with the fox in the driver's seat Madara just used a genjutsu on it and made it go on a rampage.. just think about Naruto vs pain and while in fox mode an Uchiha came and put him under control.. damn that's what they should have done
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