Human Rasengan

Didn' Nawaki die during a mission with Orochimaru during the third great ninja war. one thing missing that would help us figure all this crap out is how many years before hte fox attack did Hiruzen make Minato hokage

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kael03

Dan and Nawaki died during the Second war, not the Third.

AOTKorby

Minato was made Hokage right near the end of the Third Great Ninja War.

Tsunade met Dan probably around age 20-25, given her appearance. She still had the same appearance as she did as a part of Sarutobi's Jounin Squad when Nawaki died, so presumably there is a fair amount of time passed in between Nawaki's death and meeting Dan. Dan dies at age 28. Minato becomes part of Jiraiya's squad at age 10, less than 5 years after Dan's death, but more than 1. Tsunade is presumably around the same age as Dan. Therefore, as she was 38 when Minato died, Minato would have had to have been 10 years old at 2 different times.

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Human Rasengan

Well given Tsunade's youth jutsu .. we can't ever base her age off of a flashback appearance because we don't know how much control she had over her jutsu back then.. if she used it at all .. for all we know the youngest image we have of her not in child form she could have already been altering her appearance with the youth jutsu.. if it was only to shave two or three years off.. seeing as to her use of the jutsu constantly she would seem to be a vain individual and would use it as soon as she learned it.. damn this chick must really love the dick.. can you imagine how many young studs in the narutoverse she has laid with thinking they were banging a hot young teen or early twenty year old blondie

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto

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AOTKorby

Ok. Think about this for a moment. THIS DOES NOT HELP YOUR CASE AT ALL. Are you seriously saying that she might have been EVEN OLDER, making it EVEN LESS possible that she were Minato's mother? The older Tsunade is, the more impossible shit gets. Say she were 34 when Minato were 10, instead of 30. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY THAT MINATO WAS 14 WHEN HE DIED. We KNOW what age Tsunade was when Minato died. She was 38. If you're trying to argue that Tsunade were Minato's mother, guess what? EVERYTHING CONTRADICTS. If Tsunade were older, that means that Minato would be too young. If Tsunade were younger, that means it isn't possible, as she would have had to have been at least 20-ish when she met Dan, which would again make MINATO TOO YOUNG. You know why this happens? BECAUSE TSUNADE IS NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE MINATO'S MOTHER, ESPECIALLY NOT WITH DAN.

Stated in a way you might understand:

Tsunade is too young to be Minato's mother, but if you try to make her older, then Minato turns out too young.

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Human Rasengan

no all I'm saying is that we don't know what age she was in those flashbacks and due to her using the youth jutsu.. she can litterally remain frozen in time as far as appearance in age.. so we can't use any of the flashbacks with her in it to state what age she is.. even i it is supposedly the first appearance of an of age Tsunade .. we don't know if she had her jutsu active even then .. so trying to figure out her age is just as impossible as trying to figure out wolverine's

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto

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The Special One

Tsunade's only 54. And all those years ago Jiraiya and Orochimaru were young men (albeit teenagers given on how they are all around the same height, and Jiraiya, as an adult, ends up leagues taller than both Orochimaru and Tsunade).

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/160/10/

Why would Tsunade be altering her age when she's between the ages of 15-21? The technique she uses is to maker her appear younger than she is. Why would she look any older than Orochimaru and Jiraiya at that time?

It just isn't likely. It's like saying Kamizuki Izumo (one of the Chunnin examiners) could have a child around the age of Naruto or something. You know how weird that is?

And Dan died at 27 years. If Tsunade's around that age when he died, why would she be working on that age concealing technique?

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AOTKorby

But that's just it, it doesn't matter. If she were using it, she'd be older than she appears (because why the hell would she, someone terrified of growing old, use it to appear older?), which makes the theory impossible based on what I said in that post. And if she weren't using it, the ages still would not add up. That's the point.

What causes these arguments to go on forever is that whenever someone posts something that provides counterevidence or logic that disproves the theory, you will respond by only looking at one aspect, which itself can be disputed, but that aspect is only part of the argument. Yes, she could be using the Youth Illusion technique there, which DOES MEAN that we don't know the exact age at which she met Dan. But when you actually look at the rest of what I said, it gives evidence and argument as to why, even then, she couldn't be.

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Human Rasengan

she's a chick she could use it to erase wrinkles or pimples

and @ korby.. everyone is posting things that do seem to have credence but I have seen soo many time tables as to Tsunade's age at various times based on supposed age guesses at Minato and Hiruzen and other characters where there is no actual definition of age at certain times .. that since the story has certain points that Naruto is a Senju .. and Tsunade is the only known link to that family line .. I'm thinking that kishi will somehow tie Naruto to her to make the Senju Uchiha battle more decisive of the eons long feud between the two sons of the sage.. for that to happen Naruto needs to be Senju and he must be linked ot Tsunade.. or some as of yet revealed Senju person

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The power of despair is great in you.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlzx4...&feature=share

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto

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Sage of

I'll make it Simple Dan dies at age 28 during the Second war. 28-10 equals 18 old enough to be a daddy in anyones book. And Tsunade was relative to his age. Possible?

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kael03

I'll make even more simple. Minato was 25-30 when he died (it was mentioned he was younger than 30 when he was raised to hokage when the elders were discussing Kakashi being raised). Tsunade was 38 when Naruto was born. Making her 8-13 when Minato was born.

Human Rasengan

ok if she was 18 then it's likely that she could have a kid

and kael what sources are you using to establish Minato's age when he died or when he assumed the role of hokage. .. you guys wat to end this lets work thru this now and I'll never post inthis fuckin thread again

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The power of despair is great in you.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto

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Sage of

Your leaving out the fact that Dan and Tsunade were 28 when he was 10 making her 17 or 18 at conception. Because again.so he was 20 if she was 38 when he died. Still making him old enough to have Naruto. He was only Hokage for a short while. Doesn't mean 5 years. That's why the 3rd took the title back instead of naming a new one. Remember Nawaki Died at 12 and he was the younger brother. So she was older than atleast 15 to sixteen during the second war when Minato was conceived regardless of who his parents were.

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AOTKorby

Except that you're deliberately ignoring the fact that Tsunade had to have been at least in her twenties when she met Dan. She looked the same as she does with the Youth Illusion that makes her look like she's in her Early-Mid twenties. Sarutobi's hair had grayed, while Nawaki died while Sarutobi was still a Jounin. Tsunade would have been around 15-17 when Nawaki died, and given that there was clearly a substantial period of time between her brother's death and meeting Dan, she HAD to have been in her twenties at least. And there's no way that Minato is younger than 18 at the time of his death. Look at this and try to tell me that any of it adds up, here's a little hint, it doesn't.

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kael03

When deciding to make Kakashi Hokage, the Elders made note that Minato was younger than him. Since Kakashi is 30 currently, it stands to reason that Minato was in his upper 20s, we can say 29 for shits and giggles. If Minato was 29 when he was raised to Hokage, that would make Tsunade 9 when Minato was born.

Edit: here's the link that states Minato was younger than Kakashi when he was elected Hokage
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/450/15/

During the Kakashi flashback when he was talking with his dad, it showed Minato leading Kakashi's team just after he became a Junin at 13. Minato couldn't have been Hokage at that time, as Kages don't fight unless absolutely necessary. Kakashi was 14 when Minato died (since he was 26 at the start of the series, 12 years after the death of Minato).

I doubt you'll never post in this thread again