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Old 05-20-2010, 04:49 AM   #1
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Byakugan

As it's been stated, the Sharingan is an evolution or mutation of the Byakugan. This however conflicts with the current story...

Apparantly, the ninja world was established by two 'races' created by the Sage. Uchiha and the Senju.

Now, if the Byakugan came before the Sharingan, that would mean that the Byakugan is the original dojutsu and the Uchiha that existed shortly after the Sage's death must have had the Byakugan.

However, Kishimoto could have just retconned it so that the Sharingan was not developed from the Byakugan.

Personally, I hope there is a deeper twist involving the three Dojutsu, because this would probably make Hinata a major character... I got this idea while reading the NaruSaku/NaruHina thread. I was thinking to myself about what couple's kids would be more natural.

Naruto and Sakura would have a more normal kid. It would have insane chakra, amazing chakra control, healing jutsu, sage mode... You know, a combination of Naruto and Sakura.

Then I thought about Naruto and Hinata's child. It would be Naruto and Neji, essentially. A sage with Byakugan and gentle fist style? It would be insanely powerful, but Byakugan doesn't play enough of a role in the story for it to make sense.

This isn't a NaruSaku/NaruHina thread... My point is just that the Byakugan may well have a bigger role in the story than we think.
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Re: Byakugan

To put it simple, Hinata's offspring with the Yellow Nutcase would be Death on Two Legs. Assuming that it inherits the traits of it's parents and not the (great) grandparents as it is more common genetically.

Probably there are several stories on the origins of doujutsu. Some may be an official story or even a coverup. Remember, the tablet in the Uchiha compound is something that has been mentioned to be readable by the Sharingan. Perhaps the Byakugan will play a role in that.
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Re: Byakugan

huuu why do people create these reject threads.... The baby may not even have the power to activate the Byakugan because Naruto isn't a Hyuuga. Naruto also does not belong to any type of clan so really you shouldn't expect much of anything from his side of the gene pool. At best the child would be a Hyuuga with an above average chakra level because of the foxes genetic imprint on Narutos DNA. You people need to remember that Narutos jutsu are not a genetic trait but are things he learned through training. All this super baby talk is utterly ridiculous.

If you want to talk super kids then how about this. Sasuke has a baby with Mei (Mizukage). Now thats a super baby....
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Re: Byakugan

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As it's been stated, the Sharingan is an evolution or mutation of the Byakugan. This however conflicts with the current story...

Apparantly, the ninja world was established by two 'races' created by the Sage. Uchiha and the Senju.

Now, if the Byakugan came before the Sharingan, that would mean that the Byakugan is the original dojutsu and the Uchiha that existed shortly after the Sage's death must have had the Byakugan.

However, Kishimoto could have just retconned it so that the Sharingan was not developed from the Byakugan.

Personally, I hope there is a deeper twist involving the three Dojutsu, because this would probably make Hinata a major character... I got this idea while reading the NaruSaku/NaruHina thread. I was thinking to myself about what couple's kids would be more natural.

Naruto and Sakura would have a more normal kid. It would have insane chakra, amazing chakra control, healing jutsu, sage mode... You know, a combination of Naruto and Sakura.

Then I thought about Naruto and Hinata's child. It would be Naruto and Neji, essentially. A sage with Byakugan and gentle fist style? It would be insanely powerful, but Byakugan doesn't play enough of a role in the story for it to make sense.

This isn't a NaruSaku/NaruHina thread... My point is just that the Byakugan may well have a bigger role in the story than we think.
Hearsay/legend. With recent events taken into consideration, I easily disregard that "legend" and believe that it (sharingan) is more likely not from the byakugan.

Also, I know this wont happen, and its haxish, but I would like it if Naruto got the byakugan, from Neji or Hinata most likely. It does contradict a lot of things, so in a way I also wouldn't like it. BUT if he is to get any similar hax (other dojutsu) I would prefer the byakugan
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

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Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems

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Re: Byakugan

Taking into consideration what madara said. 1st comes the rinnegan. 2nd Comes the Sharigan. since he states that the sage's elder son was born with it. In regards to the Byakugan, in the manga it states. That It is "Said" that the sharigan evolve from the byakugan. Meaning that people are not really sure they are just assuming. Otherwise they wouldve just simply said that "The Sharigan evolved from the byakugan instead of "It Is Said The Sharigan Evolve from the Byakugan".In Chapter 78, Page 5 kakashi also says that the hyuga clan is the leaf's oldest and greastest bloodline. Which we know for a fact that it is not true. The uchiha are the oldest since the leaf village was founded by the senju clan and the uchiha clan. the reason why kakashi and everyone else thought that the hyuga clan was older or came first was because much of the uchiha's history was kept secrete since the hokage and the elders didnt trust the uchihas and thus banning them to outskirts of the village.
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Re: Byakugan

So In actuality the only reasonable explanations on the origin of the byakugan are the Following:
1.The Byakugan evolve from the sharigan.
2.The Byakugan evolve from the Rinnegan Or from the senju clan since they are descedants of the sage's younger son.
3. The Byakugan evolve completely natural within the hyuga clan without any links to sage, senjus, or uchihas.
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huuu why do people create these reject threads.... The baby may not even have the power to activate the Byakugan because Naruto isn't a Hyuuga. Naruto also does not belong to any type of clan so really you shouldn't expect much of anything from his side of the gene pool. At best the child would be a Hyuuga with an above average chakra level because of the foxes genetic imprint on Narutos DNA. You people need to remember that Narutos jutsu are not a genetic trait but are things he learned through training. All this super baby talk is utterly ridiculous.

If you want to talk super kids then how about this. Sasuke has a baby with Mei (Mizukage). Now thats a super baby....
You completely missed the point of the post. Actually, completely is an understatement.
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Re: Byakugan

I guess I just don't understand why threads like these are made, and why irrational idiots get offended when someone tells them the truth. Am I missing something, or am I just too smart to comprehend it?

Vengeance is right, this topic is stupid and has been discussed to death. It seems like no one is starting off on a good foot nowadays.
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I guess I just don't understand why threads like these are made, and why irrational idiots get offended when someone tells them the truth. Am I missing something, or am I just too smart to comprehend it?

Vengeance is right, this topic is stupid and has been discussed to death. It seems like no one is starting off on a good foot nowadays.
How has this been discussed to death? I know people have talked about it before, but it's still relevant. It's said that the Sharingan may have developed from the Byakugan, and with more recent information that we've learned about the history of the ninja world and the Dojutsu, it's possible that Byakugan has a bigger role in the story than we think. There's only 3 real Dojutsu, TWO of them have a MAJOR impact on the story.

Tell me-- which part of this theory is stupid?

Oh wait, you're just too smart to comprehend it.

Edit: And all Vengeance did was bash me for talking about Naruto's possible children, which wasn't even my point.

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How has this been discussed to death? I know people have talked about it before, but it's still relevant. It's said that the Sharingan may have developed from the Byakugan, and with more recent information that we've learned about the history of the ninja world and the Dojutsu, it's possible that Byakugan has a bigger role in the story than we think. There's only 3 real Dojutsu, TWO of them have a MAJOR impact on the story.

Tell me-- which part of this theory is stupid?

Oh wait, you're just too smart to comprehend it.

Edit: And all Vengeance did was bash me for talking about Naruto's possible children, which wasn't even my point.
The whole idea of it has been discussed like crazy since Madara told the story of the brothers. I get it, you have an opinion, and that's great, but creating a new thread about an old topic gets on pretty much everyone's nerves. It's frustrating to see this happen again when we've all already seen it go down multiple times already.
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huuu why do people create these reject threads.... The baby may not even have the power to activate the Byakugan because Naruto isn't a Hyuuga. Naruto also does not belong to any type of clan so really you shouldn't expect much of anything from his side of the gene pool. At best the child would be a Hyuuga with an above average chakra level because of the foxes genetic imprint on Narutos DNA. You people need to remember that Narutos jutsu are not a genetic trait but are things he learned through training. All this super baby talk is utterly ridiculous.
Wrong a bit. Also, the Byakugan is not activated, at least it's physical appearance is not. All hyuuga's and their offspring have blank flashlight eyes.

They had to have non-Hyuuga spouses. How on Earth would the have been reproducing into a full blown clan? Any hereditary trait requires exogamic relations (look that up) to maintain. If the primordial Hyuugas would require to inbreed, which would lead into a dead end in about a few generations. The Hyuuga's are one if not the most populous clans.... therefore they had been marrying others outside the clan. This is a basic premise in ethnography and demography.

To sum up:L inbreeding makes extensive large families impossible. Guess why the general inbred populations are isolated small-numbered rural locations? Also, royal families like the Habsburg's weren't so extensive in the first place (not counting auxillary families etc.), and they became inbred because of special social settings which dictated who could marry who - - -> generally because of keeping inheritance within the family. This is why -for example- Queen Victoria becoming the grandmother of Europe (all European rulers were related to her, and her family being already littered with hereditary diseases) and his children intermarrying was catastrophic to the sanity of most rulers.

And just put a Byakuugan into a high-chakra reserve kid. That alone makes it formidable beyond the norm.
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Both Neji & Hinata say Byakugan to activate their eyes. When this is done the vains in their face pop out signifying the activation of the Byakugan. Also the Hyuuga's are imbreeders & aren't a large clan at all. Neji wanted to jump Hinata's bones when they first met.
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Re: Byakugan

This doesnt really relate to the meaning of this thread, but moreso the title. I was just wondering what people's thoughts were on the byakugan not being able to detect naruto in sage mode.

its kind of a pointless question but just felt like asking it for sh!ts and giggles.

I don't think it would be able to detect because it takes intense training to be able to atleast sense nature energy and when neji activates his and looks around he only see's normal/kyubi chakra or else there would be chakra everywhere.
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that would be to much hax.

Sage mode and gentle fist?

U don't even have to touch em then, to block their chakra network, no defence possible.
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