It's official Naruto is Senju - Page 15

BLOOD_GOD · 06-22-2010, 02:41 AM

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We've mentioned this before. In another of this moron's threads, I pointed out how the ages don't match up to Tsunade being Naruto's grandmother as his whole theory was based on a grandparent relationship with Tsunade through first Minato, then through Kushina. Tsunade would've been around 12-13 when Minato was born, as she was 38 when he died and Naruto was born and we're under the impression that Minato was in his mid-20s when he died. During Second Great Shinobi World War The Same ware Dan Died in (Not the third war when Minato is Grown) Jiraiya raised the three orphans(Nagato) for a little over 3 years. Years after that after the orphans were supposidly killed by Hanzo,he became a Jonin leader and had a team with Minato who was 10. The orphans weren't instantly famous so could have been the remaining 7 or so years of little Minto.The Tale of the Utterly Gutsy Shinobi was Jiraiya's first book, written while training the Ame Orphans and published after training the young Minato Is where the New Hokage minato got naruto name.Naruto's name after the Third Shinobi War. So it is Possible that the Hokage was a 19-23 year old. Probably the youngest Hokage ever. The ages match. Doesn't mean its the truth but no one should change the facts just because you don't want naruto to be Senju.

I believe Minato was around 25. Also, Hiruzen was the youngest Hokage ever. Remember the flashback?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/481/09/

He couldn't have been older than 16.

Dizzykilla · 06-22-2010, 03:05 AM

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*breaks out the popcorn and waits for the high-pressure stream of pure bullshit*

OMFG...HAHA THIS GUY HIT THE FUCKN NAIL ON THE HEAD WIT THIS THREAD

every time a new charicter is released u ppl got to jump to the most obseen conclusion tryn to conect anything....just to make it seem like ur naruto guru's ...it dont really matter to me im super bored in just wanted to rant thank you come again

stubborn_d0nkey · 06-22-2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BLOOD_GOD

I believe Minato was around 25. Also, Hiruzen was the youngest Hokage ever. Remember the flashback?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/481/09/

He couldn't have been older than 16.

That's not a fact, its speculation. 2 things go against it:

1. The recent 6th hokage issue and mentioning minato
2. We don't know what happened after that flashback, who said the second died there for sure? The second was strong, and we also saw decoys being saved(in the manga).

Narutologist · 06-22-2010, 07:51 AM

The second Hokage had to be older than 16 when he became Hokage...shouldnt this type of shit be in the databook?

AOTKorby · 06-22-2010, 01:29 PM

Ignoring the fact that Sarutobi was the Jounin Squad Leader for Jiraiya, Orochimaru, and Tsunade when he could not have been YOUNGER than 25...

jericho Uzimaki · 06-22-2010, 01:44 PM

Okay look Tsunade technically coulda been Minato's Mom he just took his Dad's name i mean do we even Know Dan's Last name? No, we just know that he was from Konoha. We don't Know Tsunade's last name or Shizune's! hell it could be Uzimaki for ALL we know! But let me point this out...Dan was obviously calm and rational...so was Minato. Tsunade does and has let her emotions rattle her judgment...like Naruto. All I'm saying is that It is Possible everyone is the right age to be Grandma-Tsunade, Son-Minato, and Grandson-Naruto. I mean your trying to say a 16 year old can't have a 55year old Grandma?!

AOTKorby · 06-22-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jericho Uzimaki

Okay look Tsunade technically coulda been Minato's Mom he just took his Dad's name i mean do we even Know Dan's Last name? No, we just know that he was from Konoha. We don't Know Tsunade's last name or Shizune's! hell it could be Uzimaki for ALL we know! But let me point this out...Dan was obviously calm and rational...so was Minato. Tsunade does and has let her emotions rattle her judgment...like Naruto. All I'm saying is that It is Possible everyone is the right age to be Grandma-Tsunade, Son-Minato, and Grandson-Naruto. I mean your trying to say a 16 year old can't have a 55year old Grandma?!

Shizune was related to Dan.

Tsunade met Dan when she was somewhere between 20 and 30, because she looked exactly the same as she does now with an illusion that makes her look like she's still in her mid-twenties. Dan died at age 28, presumably being about the same age as Tsunade. Around 3 years later, Jiraiya started teaching the 10 year old Minato.

Not to mention that Minato would have died around his early-mid twenties. When Tsunade was 38. Minato would have had to have been at least 10 when Dan died, which we know he wasn't.

Human Rasengan · 06-22-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SenninKorby

Shizune was related to Dan.

Tsunade met Dan when she was somewhere between 20 and 30, because she looked exactly the same as she does now with an illusion that makes her look like she's still in her mid-twenties. Dan died at age 28, presumably being about the same age as Tsunade. Around 3 years later, Jiraiya started teaching the 10 year old Minato.

Not to mention that Minato would have died around his early-mid twenties. When Tsunade was 38. Minato would have had to have been at least 10 when Dan died, which we know he wasn't.

You can't go on looks alone... we don't know when and at what age Tsunade met dan. we do know that Tsunade J man and Oro were in the third great ninja war which started when they were young and was obviously during the reign of Hiruzen's first reign and apparently ended either in the last years of Minato's reign or in the beginning of Hiruzen's second reign.. for all we know that war could have ended right before the fox attack.

and to me Dan appears to be older than Tsunade as it is very common for a man to marry or be betrothed to a younger woman

AOTKorby · 06-22-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan

You can't go on looks alone... we don't know when and at what age Tsunade met dan. we do know that Tsunade J man and Oro were in the third great ninja war which started when they were young and was obviously during the reign of Hiruzen's first reign and apparently ended either in the last years of Minato's reign or in the beginning of Hiruzen's second reign.. for all we know that war could have ended right before the fox attack.

and to me Dan appears to be older than Tsunade as it is very common for a man to marry or be betrothed to a younger woman

Uh, no. Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru were 38 at the time of the Third Great Ninja War, and Minato was already a Jounin most likely in his mid-twenties. Jiraiya, at least, looked exactly the same during that war as he did at the current time before he died.

Normally, judging by appearance doesn't work, but seeing as Tsunade looked EXACTLY THE SAME back then as she does now with an illusion that makes her look like she's in her twenties, YES, IT'S OK TO USE APPEARANCES.

That war DID end right before the Fox's attack. That's a fairly major plot point.

Dan died in the 2nd Great Ninja War. Minato was 10 years old after the end of that war. Tsunade would have met Dan somewhere between 8 and ZERO years before he died (given by the point that "she might have been younger than him, which does nothing to help your argument). Given that she would not have been older than 30 or so when Minato was 10, and Minato is almost certainly older than 20 when he died (rather than the 18 or younger that your theory would require), SHIT DON'T ADD UP.

Human Rasengan · 06-22-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SenninKorby

Uh, no. Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru were 38 at the time of the Third Great Ninja War, and Minato was already a Jounin most likely in his mid-twenties. Jiraiya, at least, looked exactly the same during that war as he did at the current time before he died.

Normally, judging by appearance doesn't work, but seeing as Tsunade looked EXACTLY THE SAME back then as she does now with an illusion that makes her look like she's in her twenties, YES, IT'S OK TO USE APPEARANCES.

That war DID end right before the Fox's attack. That's a fairly major plot point.

Dan died in the 2nd Great Ninja War. Minato was 10 years old after the end of that war. Tsunade would have met Dan somewhere between 8 and ZERO years before he died (given by the point that "she might have been younger than him, which does nothing to help your argument). Given that she would not have been older than 30 or so when Minato was 10, and Minato is almost certainly older than 20 when he died (rather than the 18 or younger that your theory would require), SHIT DON'T ADD UP.

Well given the new addition of kushina I've added the possibility of her being a possible child of hers as well .. but hopefully when Kushina tels her story it will give me some clue either one way or another as to which one of them could be her child if at all .. and not to go thru the whole appearances thing .. but Naruto does look a lot like Nawaki.. I know that the point of showing him and Dan was the whole I want to be hokage thing.. but that's not what I'm focusing on .. it was like she saw her brother in Naruto.

Hopefully kishi will shed some light on the whole Naruto senju thing and i can either be proven right or humbly admit defeat .. but untill then .. my gut is telling me Naruto is senju and he is related to Tsunade

kael03 · 06-22-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan

Well given the new addition of kushina I've added the possibility of her being a possible child of hers as well .. but hopefully when Kushina tels her story it will give me some clue either one way or another as to which one of them could be her child if at all .. and not to go thru the whole appearances thing .. but Naruto does look a lot like Nawaki.. I know that the point of showing him and Dan was the whole I want to be hokage thing.. but that's not what I'm focusing on .. it was like she saw her brother in Naruto.

Hopefully kishi will shed some light on the whole Naruto senju thing and i can either be proven right or humbly admit defeat .. but untill then .. my gut is telling me Naruto is senju and he is related to Tsunade

2 problems with this. Both have been covered extensively. 1) Kushina's around the same age as Minato (and I've been over how that doesn't add up time wise). 2) Kushina was born in another country at the time Tsunade was still in training

BLOOD_GOD · 06-22-2010, 06:08 PM

Madara said he saw Senju in Naruto.

AOTKorby · 06-22-2010, 06:10 PM

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Madara said he saw Senju in Naruto.

And? I can say that I see Martin Luther King Jr. in Barack Obama, because of the fact that him being the President is a humongous step forward in the African American Civil Rights movement. That sure as shit doesn't mean that they're related.

Naruto follows the Senju Philosophy more strongly than anyone had since Hashirama himself. THAT'S WHAT MADARA MEANS.

BLOOD_GOD · 06-22-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SenninKorby

And? I can say that I see Martin Luther King Jr. in Barack Obama, because of the fact that him being the President is a humongous step forward in the African American Civil Rights movement. That sure as shit doesn't mean that they're related.

Naruto follows the Senju Philosophy more strongly than anyone had since Hashirama himself. THAT'S WHAT MADARA MEANS.

I KNEW what the fuck Madara meant, dude. I didn't say Madara SAID Naruto WAS SENJU. I said he SAW IT IN HIM. You wasted your time elaborating on what I already knew.

AOTKorby · 06-22-2010, 06:24 PM

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I KNEW what the fuck Madara meant, dude. I didn't say Madara SAID Naruto WAS SENJU. I said he SAW IT IN HIM. You wasted your time elaborating on what I already knew.

Then explain what the fucking point was of saying that in the first place if you weren't trying to prove any kind of point. When you're dealing with someone as desperate as HR, you have to ENSURE that he can't twist shit to make it seem like evidence for whatever theory he's failing to defend.

I.E. if you just say "Madara said he saw Senju in him..." HR will say "SEE!? MADARA SAW THAT NARUTO WAS A SENJU!! I FUCKING KNEW IT! YOU ALL R IDIOTS!!!"

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