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Old 07-09-2010, 09:55 AM   #1
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I am amazed . . .

The news just gets more ignorant as the years go by. Yeah, it is Yahoo News, so I am not expecting much:

The headline reads, "Fierce Debate Over Jobless Benefits." It goes on to say, "Experts are asking: Do unemployment benefits discourage people from looking for work?"

And it is here, comrades, that I lose faith in humanity.

link: http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...bless-benefits
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Re: I am amazed . . .

People have been slagging off people who live on the dole in this country for aaages. I'd be surprised if it was genuinely something new to America.
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Old 07-09-2010, 10:24 AM   #3
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Re: I am amazed . . .

It is nothing new.

I just don't understand, why experts are still asking the question. If you give money to people, then they have less of an incentive to go out and get it. There are some who will go out and earn it, but it is common sense that unemployment benefits cause some people to not care about finding a job. They are handing people money for doing nothing.
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Old 07-09-2010, 01:10 PM   #4
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Re: I am amazed . . .

over here if you are unemployed and want money from the government to get by you are given a log book in which you must write down that you are attending job interviews and such and have weekly or fortnightly meetings with a consultant who goes over your progress with you, basically unless you're disabled, your time on the doll will be a very short lived one. Unless you're black....

Then the government just fucking throws money at you, the guy running for Prime Minister came out and said all aboriginals have to get a job even if it's picking up rubbish, bunch of them came out and called him a racist, it's just fucking ridiculous these days =/
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Old 07-09-2010, 01:19 PM   #5
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Re: I am amazed . . .

This what happens when idiots runs the public
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Old 07-09-2010, 01:41 PM   #6
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Re: I am amazed . . .

The problem is that the benefits should be directed at getting people employed but when one worries about where to find their next meal today, it is hard to look for a job tomorrow and so they begin to rely on payouts. The culture purpetuates handouts rather than motivation. (I applaud the Aussie system if it works as well as you say - Canada's is supposed to work like that but most often doesn't. Though we have the same problems with the countries Aboriginals.)

The biggest problem we have is that the benefits are often better than the lowest level jobs, so there is no motivation. They are set towards a bottom standard of living that is actually above what people get when they are on minimum wage. (It gets worse when our government offers more for children so there are unemployed pumping out kids to get more money - hoorah for child poverty in the developed world!) What it should be is an assistence program that dwindles the longer you are on it but promises to reinstate support for those who work but can't make the "poverty line". I.e if someone only makes $18,000 a year (shit job indeed), the government would give them whatever it took to meet their needs. Then, the motivation would be to take that shit job and if you want a better life, work toward it.
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:30 PM   #7
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Re: I am amazed . . .

YEAH THE MONEY WOULD BE MUCH BETTER SPENT JUST CREATING JOBS
AND MAKING PEOPLE WORK FOR THEIR CUT
LIKE IF YOU GO UNEMPLOYED YOU JUST GO TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT PLACE
AND THEYLL ALWAYS HAVE SHIT FOR YOU TO DO
HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY
SO TAXPAYERS GET SOMETHING OUT OF THE DEAL
YOU DO IT
AND GET THE BENEFITS
THESE JOBS WOULD PROBABLY SUCK ASS
SO PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO DO JOBS THAT SUCK ASS
WILL LOOK FOR LESS SUCK ASS JOBS
AND IF YOU DONT WORK
THEN THAT REALLY SUCKS FOR YOU
OBVIOUSLY THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE FOR THE
UNEMPLOYED NOT THE
DISABLED


NOT SURE THE EXACT DETAILS OF AUSSIELAND SYSTEM
BUT IN AMERICA
IT IS SIMILAR TO THAT
OR AT LEAST IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO
I DUNNO ABOUT NOW
ITS PRETTY EXPLOITABLE
YOU JUST APPLY FOR JOBS YOU KNOW YOU WONT GET
SHIT THAT PAYS A TON OF MONEY
IT STILL COUNTS AS LOOKING FOR A JOB
SO YOU WILL GET YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT
AND IF YOU DO SOMEHOW GET THE JOB
THEN YOU GET PAID A FUCKLOAD UNTIL
YOU PROBABLY GET FIRED
FOR BEING INCOMPETENT
THERE IS A LIMIT ON HOW LONG YOU CAN BE UNEMPLOYED
SO YOU HAVE TO GET A SHIT JOB AT BK OR SOME SHIT
EVERY NOW AND THEN
THEN JUST WORK FOR AS LONG AS WHATEVER THE
MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS PER YEAR
THEN GET FIRED AND GO BACK ON UNEMPLOYMENT
PRETTY SURE THATS HOW IT WORKED
MY ONE FRIEND DID SHIT LIKE THAT FOR A LONG ASS TIME
HE REALLY HATED WORKING


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Old 07-09-2010, 06:05 PM   #8
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Re: I am amazed . . .

I HEAR THE WAGE YOU GET ON UNEMPLOYMENT REALLY SUCKS ASS
LIKE ITS BEARLY LIVABLE

I TAKE TO MUCH PRIDE IN MY WORK TO BE UNEMPLOYEED FOR LONG
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Old 07-09-2010, 06:11 PM   #9
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Re: I am amazed . . .

Yeah the Doll is pretty shit world wide, they give you the bare minimum the deem competent to get by on until the next payment, Frankly you're better of working, but some people are just slobs who can get by on that, buy their ciggies, a bottle of liquor and some junk food to last them a fortnight.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:08 PM   #10
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Re: I am amazed . . .

Yeah unemployment wage really isn't much to live but when the goverment then throws you food stamps and some other shit they throw at poor people and they live better than the middle class. That's on my country though. Still I prefer working for my job than being an useless piece of bacterial shit.
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Old 07-10-2010, 08:36 PM   #11
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Re: I am amazed . . .

PARASYTIC PROBABLY WOULD HAVE FIT THAT BETTER, BUT YES THAT'S EXACTLY IT, A WORTHLESS BURDEN ON SOCIETY

JUST LIKE THE NATIVES IN MANITOBA
DONT GET MY STARTED ON GOVERNMENT HAND OUTS-_-
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note: they don't all live off the government and totally destroy thier surroundings, neglect thier childrena nd gamble their lives away
jsut alot of them

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Old 07-11-2010, 03:21 AM   #12
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Re: I am amazed . . .

To be honest, the people beating the system don't really bother me. I mean, yeah, they're leeching off shit and whatnot. But whatever. It's there and they're taking advantage of it. Can't fault people for that.

What I don't like is how most governing bodies are run. If I'm going to hate on anyone, it's the guys in charge. If they, and the system itself, were more competent then things would be better. If people stopped leeching and shit without anything else changing, then I'm inclined to believe that the people in charge would just waste money doing something else that is stupid instead.
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Re: I am amazed . . .

I agree. It's a waste of time.
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I agree. It's a waste of time.
what is a waste of time? work? unemployment?

do you want to contribute to the discussion or just spam?
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To be honest, the people beating the system don't really bother me. I mean, yeah, they're leeching off shit and whatnot. But whatever. It's there and they're taking advantage of it. Can't fault people for that.

What I don't like is how most governing bodies are run. If I'm going to hate on anyone, it's the guys in charge. If they, and the system itself, were more competent then things would be better. If people stopped leeching and shit without anything else changing, then I'm inclined to believe that the people in charge would just waste money doing something else that is stupid instead.
What bothers me is the fact that the system is there to be taken advantage of. It is set up so that people can do it if they want to.

The leechers are involved in the voting process, so they are partly to blame.
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