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Old 08-09-2010, 04:55 AM   #1
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The fox and Naruto

I want to raise the topic of Naruto and the fox.

With Naruto's newly gained powers the possibilities that we will see fox-Naruto again is slim.
It is also kind of sad that Naruto didn't gain the fox as a companion, like Bee and his bijuu. Instead he pulled the power out with force and sealed the Kyuubi. I still think Naruto will get back to "handling" the fox later on but for now there is no interaction between Naruto and the Kyuubi. This is disappointing in my opinion as the dynamic between them most probably would have been really nice.

I don't think we will see the Kyuubi again until Naruto faces madara/sasuke whom will probably force Naruto to loose the control he has gained over the Kyuubi.

So, No more Naruto/fox mode, no more kyuubi for a long time?
A big part of the Naruto series sealed away.

What is your thoughts on this "side-effect" of a powered up Naruto?

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Old 08-09-2010, 06:28 AM   #2
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Re: The fox and Naruto

Remember these words? "...nine tails am sorry, i wont hurt you. wait, just wait.." does talk alot doesnt it. He will definately do back and control 9tails like bee is doing.
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He'll definitely go back to it
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Re: The fox and Naruto

Maybe, but when and how? Why didn't he already? I mean, whats the difference's between what Bee did and what Naruto did? Except the Nature of the Bijuu's themselves.
If you look at Bee's instructions he knows about the hatred in the Kyuubi. This might imply Naruto will never be able to co-exist as a companion with the Kyuubi.
Hmm, I guess we will se. Something will come of it, the question is, what?
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He removes the other half from the death god's belly and returns him whole.
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He removes the other half from the death god's belly and returns him whole.
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Re: The fox and Naruto

I think this is better seriously if Naruto becomes friend with kyuubi you all will whine that Naruto is a pussy with talk no Jutsu also Fox mode gives us monster fights no ninja fights. IMO Naruto will somehow free the kyuubi later on when he is done with all the shit.
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Re: The fox and Naruto

i think naruto has to lose the kyuubi somehow, otherwise it would have been a waste of time mentioning the juubi and sage mode, if naruto and sasuke are gonna take on madara i think they will do it without the kyuubi
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Re: The fox and Naruto

kyuubi knows a hell lot about madara. Hell, kyuubi could be the one to prove who is lying or not in the series. It would be disappointing to see naruto move forward with jink power without looking into the kyuubi's history. He'll be losing a lot of vital info on defeating Tobi/Madara.

the kyuubi may be very pissed all the time, but that's probably because everybody's trying to get at his power. the RS must have preprogrammed him or something to hunt evil, that's why he can sense malice. that doesn't necessarily make him malevolent or shit like that. The kyuubi's a force of nature wielded by some opportunistic ninjas into doing their bidding.
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Re: The fox and Naruto

The fox is out of balance alone, but with Naruto free of malice and evil, he brings balance to the fox, Naruto will sacrifice everything at a crucial moment and free the Fox, the Fox will make the connection and realize the significance of Naruto's gesture and they will become a partnership.... Besides, the fox will always be hunted and never truly be free as long as he is on the loose, he might as well roll with a bad ass like Naruto.
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Re: The fox and Naruto

I will explain this...

-First of all Naruto is controlling just Kyuube Chakra separated from the Kyuube's Mind.

-That means Naruto is controlling 25% of Kyuube powers, It's because 50% of Kyuube was sealed in Minato.

-Why Killer Bee is in beast form? because he's controlling the Ming of his Bijuu.

-Here I was trying to show that even without Chakra Kyuube still have power left

-"That jutsu" will require Chakra and Mind control over Bijuu.

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Re: The fox and Naruto

Well the fox is supposed to be a mass of hate which should make it evil and uncooperative. However, Im starting to wonder if the kyuubi is even innately evil at all and not just made the hateful dark bijuu he is today because of mistreatment and abuse from humans. Granted each bijuu has its own personality, but I think the kyuubis is most like an uchiha just as his power seems to be as well.

So eventually naruto should gain the kyuubis trust and finally be able to use it power in cooperation, not just the yin chakra of it he takes by force.
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-First of all Naruto is controlling just Kyuube Chakra separated from the Kyuube's Mind.
First of all, it's "kyuubi" not "kyuube". Second, we don't know exactly what Naruto did. All he said was he sectioned the Kyuubi's chakra in a separate place so he wasn't using it all of the time.

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-That means Naruto is controlling 25% of Kyuube powers, It's because 50% of Kyuube was sealed in Minato.
How do you figure it's only 25%? Considering all bijuus are chakra constructs I would guess that Naruto is able to use ~95% of what was sealed in him. I say ~95% because we don't know for certain what Naruto has done with the kyuubi's mind.

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-Why Killer Bee is in beast form? because he's controlling the Ming of his Bijuu.
No he wasn't. He doesn't control the Hachibi, they work together as partners. The beast form is like Naruto's kyuubi cloak transformations. The more of the bijuu's power Killer Bee draws on, the denser the cloak looks and the more he'll resemble the hachibi.

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You didn't have to post this. Naruto even mentions "you still have all of that power" just before he relocks the seal on his stomach to seal the kyuubi's body.

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-"That jutsu" will require Chakra and Mind control over Bijuu.
The only clue we have to "that jutsu" is it is apparently powerful enough to require Naruto to have the ability to draw on the kyuubi's chakra without losing his mind. So far we have seen nothing to say he needs to be able to cooperate with the kyuubi in the same manner Killer Bee cooperates with the hachibi.

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Re: The fox and Naruto

I think this has got to be the first post i near enough completely agree with you kfy, except for the uchiha bit. Also, Whicheva side yin or yang chakra is sealed away in the death gods stomach... Can that ever be retrieved? or is it gone foreva an unreachable? if thats so then you could regain the souls of all four of the dead hokages?
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I think this has got to be the first post i near enough completely agree with you kfy, except for the uchiha bit. Also, Whicheva side yin or yang chakra is sealed away in the death gods stomach... Can that ever be retrieved? or is it gone foreva an unreachable? if thats so then you could regain the souls of all four of the dead hokages?
As far as we know, whatever is sealed into the death god's stomach is there forever. The way the 3rd hokage put it, the souls of the target and the user will be locked in combat for eternity.
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