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Old 09-15-2010, 07:51 AM   #466
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

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Because Islam is supposed to conquer the world.. thats just phase one.. they have to blow up all the infidels first and then they will achieve total victory.. they can just use the mosque building to put more legs under backpack bombs
You know for someone who claims their father was a muslim you sure dont know anything about it. Islam have no intention of taking over the world, there isnt a sinsiter plot like you think. Taking over the world phase one so what is phase two. they already achieved world domination according to you.
In the quran Allah forbids muslims taking their own life did you know that. And he said anyone who does such a thing will be in hell for eternity. I really hope this what you wrote was a joke because i dont see how one person could be so stupid. If it was a joke then joke's on me but i have a feeling it isnt
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:39 AM   #467
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

The victory Mosque......if the sheep whom came up with that term had not done so, and the propaganda machine picked it up and ran with it this would just be an ordinary building.

The faction that attacked America and the various others whom hate us, they don't need this Mosque built to feel victorious. Just look at the country, people's hearts and minds are filled with nothing but hate and resentment.

We completely forgot that Muslims too lost their lives in the attacks, we forgot that for a brief period we all cried together and stretched a hand to our fellow man and picked each other up.

Its a shame that things have gotten to this point, where prejudice and anger can cause so many to forget what really happened that day, and what we as a people stand for. Its a shame that the words of one insane man who lives in an archaic alternate reality can generate hatred and violence at home and overseas because an entity which dares call itself a news organization gave him a platform to speak.

The terrorist don't need this building, which has nothing to do with them, to feel victorious. They accomplished what they set out to do long ago. Our economy fell, and we are more divided and driven by hate than ever.

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Old 09-15-2010, 08:44 AM   #468
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

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You know for someone who claims their father was a muslim you sure dont know anything about it. Islam have no intention of taking over the world, there isnt a sinsiter plot like you think. Taking over the world phase one so what is phase two. they already achieved world domination according to you.
In the quran Allah forbids muslims taking their own life did you know that. And he said anyone who does such a thing will be in hell of eternity. I really hope this what you wrote was a joke because i dont see how one person could be so stupid. If it was a joke then joke's on me but i have a feeling it isnt
I know that man.. what I'm talking about is the belief held by a small group of Muslims like the pres of Iran who believe that Islam will concure the world and some great spiritual leader is going to come during a time of great strife.. which is why you have soo many of them trying to cause strife around the world to hasten his return
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Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
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3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:13 PM   #470
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

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they share the SAME FUCKING RELIGION it matters not if the goals are the same ..
No, they don't, dumbass. The VAST majority of Muslims are peace loving and go against everything the extremists follow. They both hold the title of "Islam" but their beliefs are vastly different.

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the banner of Islam flying near where they attacked us is what they are looking at.
No, just no. This is your twisted view to go against this center. They'll see the banner of Islam go up, but they will look at the building and see what its purpose is. This will incite them to try another attack because, apparently, the first one failed in what they were trying to do.

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kinda like you clusterfucks all ganging up on someone in the forums one person takes down your enemy and you all claim credit.. see I made it relate-able for you
Not really. I don't claim credit unless I deserve it. If I post "I agree with so-and-so" I won't say "I won" with them. I've never done that on here. If I'm going to claim credit for ruining someone's shit (as I've done with you numerous times JUST in this thread) then I'm going to ruin someone's shit.

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Well i see your view but, you didnt equate this into your equation.

The imam of the ground zero mosque is a advocate against all acts of terrorism and strongly against the 911 incident. He has spoken out on it many times and works for the government since the bush administration.
So if anything the terrorist will take that as an insult because he denounced them and their acts of violence in the name of islam.
So that mosque really represents a win for muslims, americans and a loss for extremist
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Not allowing the mosque to be built, or it not being built because of the protests and shit would be the biggest lost for america.
Essentially both of these quotes.

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Because Islam is supposed to conquer the world..
What the fuck are you on? That is NOT what Islam is supposed to do. Go read the Quran, then go read the Bible (Old Testament, not the new pussy version). Aside from the names EVERYTHING is the same.

And before you go into The Crusades, that was Christianity gaining armies to go take Jerusalem away from Muslims and the Jewish people. Muslims never went beyond taking Jerusalem UNLESS they knew the Christians were coming. Then they would occupy other villages in an effort to keep the city they believe to be their holy land. Unlike Christians and Catholics, they never sought to try to conquer the world.

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they have to blow up all the infidels first and then they will achieve total victory
This is only the view point of a small fraction of extremists that the majority of Muslims despise and denounce. I've explained this numerous times. It just doesn't seem to be getting through that thick skull of yours.

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they can just use the mosque building to put more legs under backpack bombs
How so? By saying "this COMMUNITY CENTER (it's not a fucking Mosque you half-wit) is intended to bridge the gap between western society and Islam, creating peace. WE MUST KILL THE INFIDELS UNDER THIS BANNER OF PEACE!"? Holy shit that's the most retarded logic I've heard from you yet. Especially since you claim your dad was Muslim and your mom was Christian (I don't fucking believe THAT for a second).


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by the time some of them notice a few might have crossed the Atlantic with a bomb in their undies.
With the amount of security in place now, no fucking way this will happen. When was the last time you saw in the news "Plane taken down by suicide bombers" since 9/11? That's right, you haven't. Our knee-jerk reaction about heightening security paid off.

Basically, every post you've made since I asked you to make a LOGICAL connection between "building a community center to inspire and invoke peace between Islam and Western cultures" and "building a community center, that just happens to be owned and run by Muslims, is a victory for the groups behind 9/11" has proved you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and are spewing shit. You couldn't even make a LOGICAL connection. You, once again, tried to claim that "Extremists = All Muslims" with the "they all fall under Islam" bullshit.

Let me tell you something, skippy. Extremists and Muslims don't fall under the same banner of Islam because they all follow different ideologies. What the Extremists consider to be "Islam" is a perversion propagandized by a man with a history of hating the United States. Nowhere does it say that killing infidels will automatically send you to heaven to be with 72 virgins. In fact, just the opposite. Killing an innocent, or yourself, is one of the worst crimes a Muslim can commit before Allah. It automatically puts them on a trip to hell when they die.
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:35 PM   #471
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

I'm sorry guys this isn't somethign I'm coming from with a one sided approach.. it's based on feelings and emotions I see both sides of the issue, sorry but logic doesn't dictate to emotion and I'll leave it at that
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:46 PM   #472
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

So what you're saying is, you can't refute anything I just said and so you're backing out while trying to not look more like an idiot than you already are? Is that what I'm reading?

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Old 09-16-2010, 08:43 PM   #473
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

I can't believe you guys are still arguing. I thought it was over. What you guys are arguing about makes no sense. Everyone's been talking about how there's nothing wrong with them placing the mosque near Ground Zero. Can someone give a reasonable answer to why they can't move it about a couple blocks further away? There would be no protests, and it will still be close enough to hold all of the arguments the supporters gave.
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

why should they?

and you find them property which isnt (relatively too) expensive
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future
So you can post the second bit and i shouldnt be allowed to if i dont tell you? Why be so rude?

Anyways, here is a quotes for noobs guide


1. A basic quote

[*QUOTE][*/QUOTE]

(the * need to be removed for it to work, I put them in so you can see the text) is a basic quote that just wraps something in a quote without saying who quoted it who quoted so

[*QUOTE]this is a quote[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
this is a quote

Edit: there is a button for this, it looks like a speech bubble. If you select text and then press the button the selected text will automatically be wrapped with the quote tag


2. A quote that says who said it

[*QUOTE=who said it][*/QUOTE] this adds who said the post, manually putting that there can be useful when quoting something external. Example:

[*QUOTE=Mangastream]Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us[*/QUOTE] without any * would look like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mangastream
Remember all you sexy bastards out there, Naruto, Bleach, OP, FT, etc. all on break this week. Feel free to take your rage out on us
3. A quote that says who said it and links to the post where it was said

[*QUOTE=who said it;X][*/QUOTE]

Where X is the post number.

For the post that i originally quoted it would look like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey, how do you break it up please and if your not willingly to tell me, then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]

That is what you get when you press the quote button.

4. Breaking up a quote

Now that you know how quotes work it all boils down to preference, how you want it to look like and how you want to do it.

One way of doing it is copying the latter part of the original quote [*/QUOTE] and then pasting it after each section you break up, write your reply, choose the text you want then paste it after that portion, repeat till you finish the go back and copy then paste the first part of the text at the beginning of each portion of text. Of course you can immediately copy and paste both parts of a poste so that you dont forget one in the end.

The end result would be something like this

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

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I can't believe you guys are still arguing. I thought it was over.
You haven't been here long enough, then.

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What you guys are arguing about makes no sense.
It would if you actually read everything.

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Everyone's been talking about how there's nothing wrong with them placing the mosque near Ground Zero.
First of all, IT'S NOT A FUCKING MOSQUE. It's a community center that is owned and run by an Islamic Imam. They took the design of a YMCA and modified it. They placed a room out of the way that is for Muslim observance but that's all. There's 100 mosques in New York City, 1 close to the center even. Why would they build 1 more?

Second, there's nothing wrong with placing it near Ground Zero (which is an ironic name, considering that name was given to where WE dropped an atomic bomb on Japan) as the Imam and his foundation purchased the land itself. The significance of the location is that a piece of the WTC fell there.

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Can someone give a reasonable answer to why they can't move it about a couple blocks further away?
I'll give 2 reasonable answers. First, as I mentioned above, the foundation running the community center purchased the land they're building on. It's their right to build on land they own.

Second, even if it was mosque (which it isn't), what part of "Freedom of Religion" do you not seem to understand? Muslims, along with any other religion, is free to practice and gather where and when they would like as is their right granted by the First Amendment.

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There would be no protests, and it will still be close enough to hold all of the arguments the supporters gave.
It's 2 fucking miles away as it is. It's not as close as people are believing. There shouldn't be any protests because the people that are running the foundation supporting the community center (again, NOT A MOSQUE) are against everything the radicals that attacked us stand for.
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

"A11 T3rr0ri$t$ 0uT 2 G3t Am3Ric@ HURR DURRR!!!!11111"

Fucking A.

I'm a Christian, but not one of those dumbfuck Christians that have this train of thought/logic. Its NOT TO PLAN ANOTHER ATTACK AGAINST US, OR EVEN A TROPHY OF THE ATTACK. Extremists were denounced, and disgraced. Like kael said, it would make them enemies of the extremists giving us more WIN and terrorists more fail to show not all of Islam is radical and retarded as fuck.

Edit:HR, I'm not ganging up on you. My message is to all of the people who don't understand the importance of this. Hopefully, this will destroy the bridge of ignorance referring to extremist Muslims and your average Muslim.
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

I think this Is a bold move, some people who think Muslims are terrorists should stop and think because there are about 2.5 billion people so if they were all terrorists we will be screwed.
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

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I think this Is a bold move, some people who think Muslims are terrorists should stop and think because there are about 2.5 billion people so if they were all terrorists we will be screwed.
LOL. correct but not 2.5 more like 1.5. If all muslims was so bad as everyone makes them out to be the entire earth will be in turmoil. Cause them niggas everywhere, and lets not forget they are all suicide bombers. that is a real heavy stereotype to be carrying around, you can only imagine
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Re: Obama Strongly Backs Islam Center Near 9/11 Site

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What the fuck are you on? That is NOT what Islam is supposed to do. Go read the Quran, then go read the Bible (Old Testament, not the new pussy version). Aside from the names EVERYTHING is the same.
This right here is what I'm talking about .. interpretation.. there are nearly 3000 religions created a year or some crazy shit like that and look at how many versions of the bible there are

That's in Christianity,
If the Pope does something good doesn't a roman catholic, baptist, protestant, feel comradeship too I am not Catholic but am proud to share similar beliefs with Mother Theresa

So why can't the converse of this be true as well for branches of a sect of religion to respect each other

So tell me why the extremist Muslims can't take pride in what the peaceful Muslims do and twist it to their own M.O.
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