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Old 08-26-2010, 05:42 PM   #1
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Tobi is two....

A quick theory Im in a hurry.

I thoerize tobi isnt changing bodies from short to long hair, rather, the is tow tobi zetsu clones running around each with a SG of madaras or whoevers.

First: Short hair tobi has the ability to perform T/S jutsu (physical jutsu)http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...3/page001.html

Second: Long hair Tobi has mind control abilities due to what we can only assume to be genjutsuhttp://mangastream.com/read/naruto/19840303/14
andhttp://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...0/page008.html

And as we know the MS offers 1 physical attack (the T/S jutsu) and 1 super genjutsu (the mind controlling ability)

SO I theorize madara or whoever has split his power into two different bodies in order to achieve his goal that much quicker.

1 body for combat and to live in the light of day and the other to hide in the shadows and control people which is probably what happened to itachi to cause him to do something like genocide because hes too peaceful and reasonable of a person to just agree to kill his entire clan without any such peace talks or other means.

And another bit of supporting evidence I would like to bring up is about madara or whoever splitting theyre soul into two (yin and yang) I would presume.

So, I also theorize madara or whoever used a variation of edo tensai to cheat death! (has probably been stated before so dont bitch, but Im going to take it to another level so bare with me)
and instead making of making a replica of his original body out of clay and wrapping it in a living sacrifice like the original Edo tensai does to draw the soul back to it. Madara or whoever uses zetsu clones which are Organic like dirt as well which would make a fit because theyre also living physical clones.

But, taking it a step further like Uchiha do. Madara or whoever managed to split his soul Via alteration of the Edo Tensai jutsu coupled with using his EMS eyes as mediums to create a yin and yang version of himself. Two clones, each with one eye posing as the same person however, because one EMS eye is better suited for physical combat (the T/S jutsu, body warping and chakra sensing) the short haired tobi lives in the light and exposes himself to others. Meanwhile the more defensive tobi with long hair merely has the EMS genjutsu eye to control important people fromt he shadows like how long hair tobi did with yagura to develop akatsuki and how he was able to get itachi a peace loving, highly reasonable teen to commit gencide and kill his best friend shishui.

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Summoning: Impure World* Ressurection (口寄せ・穢土転生, Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei)
Ninjutsu, S-rank, Supplementary
User: Orochimaru

Using a living person as a medium**, it calls back a deceased person to this world.

[picture of Orochimaru putting a fuda*** inside the Shodai Hokage's head]
↑Within this body is a human sacrifice!?

[picture of the resurrected Shodai and Nidaime Hokage]
→The deceased has to obey the user of the technique...

A sinful summoning technique, resurrecting a deceased person back into this world. It uses a living human sacrifice as a vessel to hold the deceased in this world. The sacrifice the deceased descents in, is covered by a shroud of dust in the shape the deceased's body had in life. The technique itself, because it's a kinjutsu that's too inhuman, had it's existence concealed...

*Edo (穢土, "Dirty Soil") is what Japanese Buddhists call the world normal, unenlightened people live in. The current, living world. The world of the people who have not yet have escaped the polluting thoughts (greed, hatred, delusion, etc.) that result in suffering.
**The word used for medium is "yorishiro" (依り代). A yorishiro is an object capable of housing a Kami (神, the shinto concept of gods), allowing them to occupy physical space. Persons can also house Kami, but they are called "yorimashi" (依巫). The fact that the word yorishiro is used here shows how inhuman this technique is, treating the sacrifices as nothing more than objects.
***A fuda, or o-fuda (御札) is a kind of talisman or charm, made of paper. It is placed on walls, pillars, doors , and windows as a guard against evil spirits and such. They are often seen in manga and anime as a kind of mystical weapon. The exploding tags in Naruto are fuda, for example.
EDIT: For another theory some other time. This leaves room for the possibility that tobis collecting SGs in order to create an Uchiha army as himself split into hundreds Via zetsus cloning ability and SGs as mediums for his soul/spiritual energy. However, madara cant possibly have that much spiritual energy/life energy which is why I think hes going to use the bijuus hes collected or the entire juubi if he ever resurrects it. Since now we know bijuu hold such energy since narutos using it.
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Re: Tobi is two....

either all that or it's one guy who cuts his hair.

nobody knows how many techs EMS has and the phasing and minds control could be what his Ems techs were
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Re: Tobi is two....

hmmmmmmmmmm...
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Re: Tobi is two....

itachi choose to do the genocide if the uchia didn't agreed, that's why he talked to tobi just in case he had to do it not because tobi put the thought in his head...but if he read itachi's mind u think he did it when itachi first met him?(cause tobi had the long hair at the moment?)..but short hair tobi dose do the t/s jutsu like crazy but never read any minds as short hair either...but we haven't seen two tobi's at different scenes yet...especially the long hair in present time
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Re: Tobi is two....

That, or EMS, as the only eye closest to the Rinnegan's roots, and partially Juubi, can also devide it's powers into paths. But unlike the Rinnegan's Six(7) Paths the EMS can only divide by the amount of the user's eyes, which is 2. Two powers, two bodies.

That's my short semi-sense theory. This is to addon to Vengeance's theory as a possibility.

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Why is it I mention something in one thread & you decide to make a new thread based on what I said. Dude comeup with your own theories man.
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Re: Tobi is two....

KYF, you're an idiot. STILL.
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Re: Tobi is two....

Is this thread serious? The times he has been shown are chronologically separate. Hair grows, you cut it, and it looks different. I can't believe this thread exists.
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i have a theory about a theory on a theory.....this thread sucks
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Why is it I mention something in one thread & you decide to make a new thread based on what I said. Dude comeup with your own theories man.
Where did u state both long hair tobi and short hair tobi could both be tobi just separate people with separate abilities?
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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I thought you were in a hurry.
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People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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Where did u state both long hair tobi and short hair tobi could both be tobi just separate people with separate abilities?
I've been saying Tobi is a Zetsu clones that is controled by Madara while the Madara Kisame & Itachi saw are both the real Madara. Meaning there are two different bodies which is basically what you're saying here KY.
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So you here chilling at your house KYF?
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I've been saying Tobi is a Zetsu clones that is controled by Madara while the Madara Kisame & Itachi saw are both the real Madara. Meaning there are two different bodies which is basically what you're saying here KY.
Show me post!!!

And I was theorizng both tobis are zetsu clones not the real madara.
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MINATO "KYF" NAMIKAZE.

People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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