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Old 09-10-2010, 12:27 AM   #1
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Burn the Quran day

This is just an interview. Want more info find it yourself.
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On September 11, 2010, the extremist evangelical Dove World Church — whose pastor, Terry Jones, has written a book called “Islam Is Of The Devil” — plans to host “International Burn A Quran Day,” when it will burn Muslims’ sacred text and encourage others across the world to do so as well. Churchmember Wayne Sapp has even posted an instructional video that explains how and why to burn the Islamic text.

CNN host Rick Sanchez invited Jones on his show yesterday to ask him about the inflammatory action. When Sanchez pressed Jones about why he would try to anger the world’s Muslims by burning their sacred text, the evangelical pastor replied, “Well, for one thing, to us, the book is not sacred,” provoking laughter from the CNN host.

Jones later went on to explain, “What we are also doing by the burning of the Quran, we’re saying stop, stop to Islam, stop to Islamic law, stop to brutality. We have nothing against Muslims, they are welcome in our country.” When Sanchez asked him how he would feel if Muslims burned the Bible, Jones admitted he wouldn’t like it but emphasized that it was his “right” to burn the Islamic text because “we live in America”:

SANCHEZ: Do you know how many Muslims there are in the world?

JONES: I think there are 1.5 billion.

SANCHEZ: Yeah. I ask you that because that’s a very big number. Why would you want to do this to 1.5 billion people by burning their most sacred book? That’s crazy.

JONES: Well, for one thing, to us, the book is not sacred.

SANCHEZ: But it is to them, it’s sacred to them. [...]

JONES: What we’re also doing by the burning of the Quran on 9/11 is we’re saying stop. Stop to Islam. Stop to Islamic law. Stop to brutality. We have nothing against Muslims, they are welcome in our country. [...]

SANCHEZ: How would you feel if a Muslim said to you, what you just said to them? I have no problem with you Mr. Christian, you’re welcome in my country, but I’m burning your Bible.

JONES: I would not like it. But it’s our right. We live in America!
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GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The government turned up the pressure Tuesday on the head of a small Florida church who plans to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11, warning him that doing so could endanger U.S. troops and Americans everywhere.
But the Rev. Terry Jones insisted he would go ahead with his plans, despite criticism from the top U.S. general in Afghanistan, the White House and the State Department, as well as a host of religious leaders.
Jones, who is known for posting signs proclaiming that Islam is the devil's religion, says the Constitution gives him the right to publicly set fire to the book that Muslims consider the word of God.
Gen. David Petraeus warned Tuesday in an e-mail to The Associated Press that "images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan — and around the world — to inflame public opinion and incite violence." It was a rare example of a military commander taking a position on a domestic political matter.
Jones responded that he is also concerned but is "wondering, 'When do we stop?'" He refused to cancel the protest set for Saturday at his Dove World Outreach Center, a church that espouses an anti-Islam philosophy.
"How much do we back down? How many times do we back down?" Jones told the AP. "Instead of us backing down, maybe it's to time to stand up. Maybe it's time to send a message to radical Islam that we will not tolerate their behavior."
Still, Jones said he will pray about his decision.
State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the administration hoped Americans would stand up and condemn the church's plan.
"We think that these are provocative acts," Crowley said. "We would like to see more Americans stand up and say that this is inconsistent with our American values; in fact, these actions themselves are un-American."
Meeting Tuesday with religious leaders to discuss recent attacks on Muslims and mosques around the U.S., Attorney General Eric Holder called the planned burning both idiotic and dangerous, according to a Justice Department official. The official requested anonymity because the meeting was private.
Crowley said Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton may address the controversy at a dinner Tuesday evening in observance of Iftar, the breaking of the daily fast during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
At the White House, spokesman Robert Gibbs echoed the concerns raised by Petraeus. "Any type of activity like that that puts our troops in harm's way would be a concern to this administration," Gibbs told reporters.
Jones said he has received more than 100 death threats and has started wearing a .40-caliber pistol strapped to his hip.
The 58-year-old minister said the death threats started not long after he proclaimed in July that he would stage "International Burn-a-Quran Day." Supporters have been mailing copies of the Islamic holy text to his church to be incinerated in a bonfire.
Jones, who has about 50 followers, gained some local notoriety last year when he posted signs in front of his small church declaring "Islam is of the Devil." But his Quran-burning scheme attracted wider attention. It drew rebukes from Muslim nations and an avalanche of media interview requests just as an emotional debate was taking shape over the proposed Islamic center near the ground zero site of the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York.
The Quran, according to Jones, is "evil" because it espouses something other than biblical truth and incites radical, violent behavior among Muslims.
"It's hard for people to believe, but we actually feel this is a message that we have been called to bring forth," he said last week. "And because of that, we do not feel like we can back down."
Muslims consider the Quran to be the word of God and insist it be treated with the utmost respect, along with any printed material containing its verses or the name of Allah or the Prophet Muhammad. Any intentional damage or show of disrespect to the Quran is deeply offensive.
Jones' Dove Outreach Center is independent of any denomination. The church follows the Pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day. Pentecostals often view themselves as engaged in spiritual warfare against satanic forces.
At first glance, the church looks like a warehouse rather than a place of worship. A stone facade and a large lighted cross adorn the front of the beige steel building, which stands on 20 acres in Gainesville's leafy northern suburbs. Jones and his wife, Sylvia, live on the property and also use part of it to store furniture that they sell on eBay.
A broad coalition of religious leaders from evangelical, Roman Catholic, Jewish and Muslim organizations met in Washington on Tuesday and condemned the plan to burn the Quran as a violation of American values.
"This is not the America that we all have grown to love and care about," said Rabbi Steve Gutow of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. "We have to stand up for our Muslim brothers and sisters and say, "This is not OK.'"
FBI agents have visited with Jones to discuss concern for his safety. Multiple Facebook pages with thousands of members have popped up hailing him as a hero or blasting him as a dangerous pariah.
The world's leading Sunni Muslim institution of learning, Al-Azhar University in Egypt, accused the church of stirring up hate and discrimination, and called on other American churches speak out against it.
Last month, Indonesian Muslims demonstrated outside the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, threatening violence if Jones goes through with it.
In this progressive Florida city of 125,000 anchored by the sprawling University of Florida campus, the lanky preacher with the bushy white mustache is mostly seen as a fringe character who doesn't deserve special attention.
At least two dozen Christian churches, Jewish temples and Muslim organizations in Gainesville have mobilized to plan inclusive events — some will read from the Quran at their own weekend services — to counter what Jones is doing. A student group is organizing a protest across the street from the church on Sept. 11.
Gainesville's new mayor, Craig Lowe, who during his campaign became the target of a Jones-led protest because he is openly gay, has declared Sept. 11 Interfaith Solidarity Day in the city.
Jones dismisses the response of the other churches as "cowardly." He said even if they think burning Qurans is extreme, Christian ministers should be standing with him in denouncing the principles of Islam.
All the attention has caused other problems for Jones, too. He believes it's the reason his mortgage lender has demanded full payment of the $140,000 still owed on the church property. He's seeking donations to cover it, but recently listed the property for sale with plans to eventually move the church away from Gainesville.
The fire department has denied Jones a required burn permit for Sept. 11, but he said lawyers have told him his right to burn Qurans is protected by the First Amendment, with or without the city's permission.
The same would hold true, he said, if Muslims wanted to burn Bibles in the front yard of a mosque.
"Of course, I would not like it," Jones said. But "I definitely would not threaten to kill them, as we have been threatened."
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Personally i think this guy is a fucking moron, freedom of speech is one thing but this is a crusade. You dont go around burning people sacred book, this will have a disastrous backlash. He is basically insulting 1.3 billion people, the US troops will be in danger not to mention his life. I give him two months tops. This burning of the Quran is suppose to take place this Saturday, if it doesnt get cancelled
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:02 AM   #2
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Re: Burn the Quran day

It's this shit I was referring to in the other thread. This type of knee jerk reaction is not needed. It's a fucking community center that just happens to be run by Muslims and is supposed to help bridge the gap between Muslims and western culture. It's not a fucking threat to national security. It's a modified YMCA that has an Islamic prayer room in some far corner.
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Re: Burn the Quran day

We apparently got a plethora ignorant people these days.
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:17 AM   #4
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It's this shit I was referring to in the other thread. This type of knee jerk reaction is not needed. It's a fucking community center that just happens to be run by Muslims and is supposed to help bridge the gap between Muslims and western culture. It's not a fucking threat to national security. It's a modified YMCA that has an Islamic prayer room in some far corner.
Muslims are being attacked because of that ground zero mosque.
A muslim cab driver was stabbed a couple of times in the neck and face because he was a muslim
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Re: Burn the Quran day

^I saw pics of that. Fucking disgusting&pitiful.
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Re: Burn the Quran day

This moronic fake pastor is just another attention whore. Sadly, in America there is an audience for basically anything, this fool included.

What is even more astounding is that this man calls himself a Christian, I guess he forgot a few lessons of the bible such as love thy enemy/turn the other cheek etc.

This is just another Fox news watching dumb fuck trying to add fuel to the fire for personal gain.

Sigh, this is what happens when good old fashion ass beatings are lacking.

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Re: Burn the Quran day

The motherfucker just wanted the president to call him at home. He's going to brag about the phone call at the local bar. He needs a dick up his ass.
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Re: Burn the Quran day

The amusing part of this whole story is that, probably due to the media hype and overreporting going on about it, it has gotten back to Afghanistan where the fanatics there have whipped up a storm of anti-American and anti-Christian protests (again, probably misrepresenting that it is American and not just 100 or so idiots). It is amazing how volatile people become - particularly over what essentially breaks down into the loss of a few books that are not a rarity in the world.

That said, some one should have told this moron that burning books never ends well.
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Re: Burn the Quran day

What is truly frightening is how many people actually share his ideas, the lunatics are the loudest voices on both sides. Because of one douche's twisted mentality people take to streets threatening violence.

Heavens, I fear for humanity. It sucks that the vast majority of the masses take it to such extremes over petty matters, and completely forget about the ideals we're supposed to value.

No wonder the US has lost prestige in the international stage, with the educational system failing harder than those two fat chicks on Britain got talent, the youth is indoctrinated by dogma paddlers whom think they know everything and fuck everyone else.

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The amusing part of this whole story is that, probably due to the media hype and overreporting going on about it, it has gotten back to Afghanistan where the fanatics there have whipped up a storm of anti-American and anti-Christian protests (again, probably misrepresenting that it is American and not just 100 or so idiots). It is amazing how volatile people become - particularly over what essentially breaks down into the loss of a few books that are not a rarity in the world.

That said, some one should have told this moron that burning books never ends well.
Your missing the point. It's not about losing a few dozen books, this is about him attacking muslims the only way he could do it by burning their book. He thinks islam is responsible for 9/11 when the quran clearly have nothing to do with 9/11. But of course morons like him have gone through too many generation of inbreeding to function in a modern society or any society of that matter.

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The amusing part of this whole story is that, probably due to the media hype and overreporting going on about it, it has gotten back to Afghanistan where the fanatics there have whipped up a storm of anti-American and anti-Christian protests (again, probably misrepresenting that it is American and not just 100 or so idiots). It is amazing how volatile people become - particularly over what essentially breaks down into the loss of a few books that are not a rarity in the world.

That said, some one should have told this moron that burning books never ends well.
Same thing can be said about most americans who still blame all muslims for the crazy ideology of a few. So in essence americans and people in the middle east dont really think that much different.
(crazy ones that is)
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Re: Burn the Quran day

If only the media had not given this mo'fo' a voice...WTB real journalism !!!
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Re: Burn the Quran day

This is just moronic.

Who the hell gave coverage to this moron? Seriously, the media should stop hunting for the quick money and get their act right and only give coverage to events/people that really matter.



Just look at the poor sap. He doesn't transpire an image of wisdom or righteousness whatsoever. Who in the name of Cthulhu buys this moron's hate propaganda? Even the host of his church's website turned them down for breaking the ToS. And his speech doesn't help him either

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Just another religious attention whore. Couldn't we get the down-to-earth Christians/Muslims/atheists/whatever to speak more often and higher than these bozos? Geez, the humanity!
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Media it's a long time since i heard anyone refer to them as that. I use the term Propaganda Machines
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While this is going on China is getting more wealthy and powerful, how come no one is talking about that huh ??

Count the Chinese buffets in your area, they are taking shit over bothers and here we are bearing our fangs over books !!!

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