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Old 09-10-2010, 12:50 AM   #1
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PMS Proof ?

I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight (vs konan) I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:19 AM   #2
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Re: PMS Proof ?

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I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
How is it clearly MS? Is there proof?(see what I did there?)
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Re: PMS Proof ?

Tobi's MS has a 3 tomoe shape to trick enemies into thinking he's average Uchiha scum. He still is average scum anyway though.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

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I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight (vs konan) I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
Dude seems pretty laid back to me?
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Old 09-10-2010, 02:15 AM   #5
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Re: PMS Proof ?

I think the reason he doesn't use it is because it still has the drawback of draining a shitload of chakra when it's used. It might not cause blindness, but it would still weaken him considerably. Considering he's stated that he's still weakened from the injuries he sustained while fighting Hashirama, this is actually pretty plausible. He might not have shown it because he hasn't had the need, and it would weaken him more than he already is.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

Zetsu body doesn't have enough juice to power up an EMS.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

^^ EMS is not some kinda nuclear reactor
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^^ EMS is not some kinda nuclear reactor

Really.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

I am pretty sure it is safe to say Tobi used Izagnia(ms) and it rendered his EMS useless. I also posted this in predictions before this thread was created, I do not think he has it, I will say at one point he may have had it but as of right now he does not.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

I'm pretty sure I saw Obito... oops, Tobi bleed, so must have Premenstrual syndrome each month.
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I am pretty sure it is safe to say Tobi used Izagnia(ms) and it rendered his EMS useless.
I'm pretty sure I pointed out that he has his eye power fully intact, so he's never used Izanagi.
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I'm pretty sure I pointed out that he has his eye power fully intact, so he's never used Izanagi.
WAIT WAIT WAIT OMG OMG OMG

You read the manga and saw Tobi use EMS?!?!?!?! Show me the page, please please please, come on show me, why don't i see the panel?!?!

Oh wait... that's because no where in the manga have we seen Tobi use EMS. Hmm, wait a second, then my statement saying Tobi can't use EMS because of Izanagi could possibly be RIGHT. Holy shit, man what a turn around.

What I am saying is, Tobi could had used Izanagi against the first during their fight, losing powers of his EMS. Izanagi after being used several times or even once, could do severe damage to the eyes, we don't know for sure. We do know Tobi knows what Izanagi is, because he knew the name and knew what the jutsu was, and two we have not seen Tobi use EMS, judging by that, I am going to assume that his EMS is rendered useless, and I think its a plausible THEORY that it is true. Notice how I said THEORY, meaning not proven but it can be backed up.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

^He said "eye powers are intact". That's a fact.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

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I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight (vs konan) I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
If Tobi is Madara then he does have the EMS, unless his stories are all lies. His brother gave up his eyes, or he took them, and achieved the EMS. It's my opinion Madara is heavily underrated. Everyone talks about how poor of a villain he is, but clearly he hasn't even needed to use his EMS (if he has it/truly is Madara) meaning he can play with everyone else using only his regular ocular powers.

@Kruk

If Madara did use Izanagi and went blind in his eyes, how can he use his Sharingan now? Does that mean Madara had to abduct an Uchiha ninja and transplant his eyes? Curious, because Danzo was able to possess many Sharingan-awakened eyes on his arm, were these harvested prior to the genocide Itachi perpetrated, or did Orochimaru somehow fabricate them?


EDIT: not to mention we still don't know what Madara/Tobi has up his sleeve, or rather behind his mask.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

eye powers intact=/=EMS abilities. it may also mean that he retained sharingan or MS techs. other than that, there's absolutely no clue that this madara dude has EMS right now.

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If Madara did use Izanagi and went blind in his eyes, how can he use his Sharingan now? Does that mean Madara had to abduct an Uchiha ninja and transplant his eyes?
it is possible to use izanagi with only 1 eye too. so it is possible to use izanagi and sacrifice one eye and still retain the powers of the other eye, thus "eye powers are still intact" but not necessarily all. if EMS does requires a pair of eyes, then you'd probably lose EMS if you sacrifice one eye with izanagi.
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