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Old 02-22-2012, 05:31 PM   #1
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The Will of D

This thread is not about guessing what the Will of D is, but about some interesting connections to a few characters that may influence the series in the long run.

First let's take a look at WB's final words.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...8/c576/11.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...8/c576/12.html

That indicates that One Piece, w/e it is, is heavily tied with the Void history and the Will of D. It also foreshadows that One Piece will be found before the end of the manga, forcing all the powers to converge in a massive battle for their respective reasons.

Aside from foreshadowing those events, that bit of info adds another possible dimension, as to why the Marines wanted to take out WB so badly.

Sure he was the most powerful Yonkou, but he was also part of the small group of people that knew/know what the Will of D is ( outside of the WG ). It is implied that Roger told him before he died here.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...8/c576/10.html

That brings out a few interesting possibilities. With WB gone, there are now 4 people who know what the Will of D is, 1 confirmed ( Rayleigh ) and 3 pending.

I want to focus on those three, and specially in one in particular. The three other characters that could know what the Will of D is are Crocus, Shanks and Buggy.

Crocus was present at the Oro Jackson on its last voyage, so was Shanks and presumably Buggy. I say presumably because there is always the possibility that Buggy dipped since he is a coward.

He was present at Roger's execution, and things point to him having stayed with the Roger pirates the entire time.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...45/c434/9.html

Now, the WG did everything they could in order to wipe out anything or anyone connected with Roger, even going so far as trying to hunt down and murder his soon to be born child, Ace.

So how could Crocus, Shanks and Buggy escape this ?

Crocus was only present in their last voyage, that could explain why he might have been not well known and looked over. Shanks and Buggy were mere trainees, and the WG usually focuses on the Captains and the more dangerous members. ( Most of the Supernova's crews had no bounties to their name )

Shanks only climbed to the top echelon years after Roger's death. So even if the WG suspects that he knows about the Void History and Will of D, he has become far too powerful for them to simply engage him on a whim.

Let's face it, the motherfucker made grown marines shit their pants with his mere presence in the war.

Buggy dipped and hid in the East Blue, the weakest sea. Basically the best place to lay low. But, things have now changed. With his arrest and escape from ID, the WG actually looked into his back ground and found out that he is indeed a danger to them.

It is implied that they did not learn this info until recently.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...6/c549/11.html

Which brings me to the final possibility I would like to put out there. Could the WG have invited Buggy into the Shichibukai, so that eventually he will be their ticket to Raftel ?

Roger and his crew are the only ones to ever make it there, and it was hinted by Crocus that it is the most logical place to search for One Piece.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...13/c105/8.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...13/c105/9.html

Should the WG ever try to make it there and bury the truth once and for all, keeping Buggy close could be a massive trump card ( assuming he knows how to get there ).

To summarize:

- Crocus, Rayleigh, Shanks and Buggy are possibly the only people in the entire OPverse ( outside of the WG ) that know the truth behind the Will of D and the Void History.

- Killing WB could have meant taking one step closer to sweeping things under the rug completely.

- Buggy could be the WG's way into Raftel.

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best theory ever kyf should take notes
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Will of D = Mysterious, berry berry.
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Re: The Will of D

I had never thought of it like this.
Nice theory.

To me, I had always thought of Buggy as some sort of late boomer.
I seriously doubt Roger would let fodder join his crew as an apprentice seeing as he was equal to Shanks(at the time) and the way Shanks has turned out.

Shanks, Crocus, Rayleigh, Buggy are the most vivid ones considering they were on the Roger Pirates.
I'd like to add Dragon, Garp & Sengoku.
I'm rather lazy in explaining why, but I think these 3 know as well.
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:53 AM   #5
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Re: The Will of D

The theory sounds pretty sounds solid though I am more curious on how the WG found out about Buggy's connection with Roger all the years later. Like you said, the WG only pay attention to the top dogs and at the time Shanks and Buggy were apprentices. It can be presumed that they weren't on the Oro Jackson very long, possibly only during the last stretch so that would make their cover even that much more low key. I'm willing to assume there will be more talks of Roger and finer details on what happened to his crew after being disbanded and after Roger's death. Maybe there are other crew members that are still alive and possibly either are in cahoots with the government or maybe WG found them and forced the information out.

Since Raftel has only ever been reached by Roger, one can assume it is probably the most chaotic or hard as balls to reach islands in the New World. It is was probably too dangerous that only Roger and few of his elite crew members like Rayleigh could have made it there. I believe that Shanks and Buggy never stepped foot in Raftel but that isn't to say that Shanks and Buggy don't know what One Pece is.

Roger said that he "left" the greatest treasure in the world on that island. So it was found somewhere else presumably. Maybe where the One Piece was originally located is where the answer to what is the Will of D is. It also goes with saying that the Rio Ponyglyph might also be there and that is how we'll get the answer to what is the Will of D.

This brings me to my theory of how the Yonnkou became to be established, starting with Whitebeard. It has been revealed that he never had interest to become Pirate King or to obtain the One Piece, he just wanted a family. Roger told him about the Will of D and the fact that One Piece exists, he might even know the location. I want to believe that he's been protecting the One Piece all this time by fighting off the Marines and the WG. I mean, the closest power to face off Roger on equal footing was Whitebeard, you can't mean to tell me that the strongest person in the world isn't capable of obtaining the One Piece by now. It's been over twenty year since Roger's death. I also believe that for this same reason Shanks is also a Yonkou, to protect the location of One Piece and to guide Roger's spirit that lives on in Luffy back to the treasure.

So yeah, this theory of yours Dagoro has a lot of rational logic to it.
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Dont tell me Buggy is a D too?

But strange, Buggy wants to be a Pirate King but he doesn't want One Piece. He's after Captain's John treasure.

WB wants a family and I have no idea what Shanks want.

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That or they want Buggy's Pirate at their side. Buggy ain't powerful yet but his crews are lvl 3-5 of Impel Down. Together they are easily shicibukai lvl
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Thank you for the responses.

There are a few things that strike as odd about Buggy, and go against my idea that he might know the way to Raftel.

When he first appeared he was really adamant about getting back the map to the GL from Nami. I would imagine that a season pirate like him should be able to navigate the regular seas with ease.

The GL is one thing, but he should know how to make it to entrance on his own. Rayleigh goes every where, even through the calm belt, seemingly without so much as a compass. Probably due to his insane CoO.
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cool just noticed the new section I might have to give this one a shot to see what the hype is about
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No hype to be had, just legit quality writing.
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The Will of D is something within the character, example, notice Luffy wants zero extra information about Gold D Rogers trip, he just wants to get there, by Adventurous Accident. Not mad at him though, if I had the abilites of his crew, I'd roam to the most dangerous parts of the Grand Line as well. Thats what made that part in tha past so hard to swallow when they all got basically blasted to different parts of the Grand Line/Earth. It was hard to see Luffy tell his crew to run back to the ship, 'We Can't Win Here'. Those words didn't feel right coming out of his mouth, tha shit as debilatating, thank God for 2 year time skips.

Also I understand Ace had to die, but what was up with his Will? He even used Conqurers Haki in the past to save them when they were kids, I felt his wanting to go out on his own. I felt his dedication for WB, and at first I'm like, 'He's just a Big White Dude'. Though he could've caused much more damage before he perished, he was much more than 'A Big White Dude', he gained my respect, and his advisaries, think it, they were calling him a 'monster' because they couldn't kill him when the wanted, and he kept answering until tha end, where he basically sacrificed himself to save whomever could escape.
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This thread is not about guessing what the Will of D is, but about some interesting connections to a few characters that may influence the series in the long run.

First let's take a look at WB's final words.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...8/c576/11.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...8/c576/12.html

That indicates that One Piece, w/e it is, is heavily tied with the Void history and the Will of D. It also foreshadows that One Piece will be found before the end of the manga, forcing all the powers to converge in a massive battle for their respective reasons.

Aside from foreshadowing those events, that bit of info adds another possible dimension, as to why the Marines wanted to take out WB so badly.

Sure he was the most powerful Yonkou, but he was also part of the small group of people that knew/know what the Will of D is ( outside of the WG ). It is implied that Roger told him before he died here.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...8/c576/10.html

That brings out a few interesting possibilities. With WB gone, there are now 4 people who know what the Will of D is, 1 confirmed ( Rayleigh ) and 3 pending.

I want to focus on those three, and specially in one in particular. The three other characters that could know what the Will of D is are Crocus, Shanks and Buggy.

Crocus was present at the Oro Jackson on its last voyage, so was Shanks and presumably Buggy. I say presumably because there is always the possibility that Buggy dipped since he is a coward.

He was present at Roger's execution, and things point to him having stayed with the Roger pirates the entire time.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...45/c434/9.html

Now, the WG did everything they could in order to wipe out anything or anyone connected with Roger, even going so far as trying to hunt down and murder his soon to be born child, Ace.

So how could Crocus, Shanks and Buggy escape this ?

Crocus was only present in their last voyage, that could explain why he might have been not well known and looked over. Shanks and Buggy were mere trainees, and the WG usually focuses on the Captains and the more dangerous members. ( Most of the Supernova's crews had no bounties to their name )

Shanks only climbed to the top echelon years after Roger's death. So even if the WG suspects that he knows about the Void History and Will of D, he has become far too powerful for them to simply engage him on a whim.

Let's face it, the motherfucker made grown marines shit their pants with his mere presence in the war.

Buggy dipped and hid in the East Blue, the weakest sea. Basically the best place to lay low. But, things have now changed. With his arrest and escape from ID, the WG actually looked into his back ground and found out that he is indeed a danger to them.

It is implied that they did not learn this info until recently.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...6/c549/11.html

Which brings me to the final possibility I would like to put out there. Could the WG have invited Buggy into the Shichibukai, so that eventually he will be their ticket to Raftel ?

Roger and his crew are the only ones to ever make it there, and it was hinted by Crocus that it is the most logical place to search for One Piece.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...13/c105/8.html
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...13/c105/9.html

Should the WG ever try to make it there and bury the truth once and for all, keeping Buggy close could be a massive trump card ( assuming he knows how to get there ).

To summarize:

- Crocus, Rayleigh, Shanks and Buggy are possibly the only people in the entire OPverse ( outside of the WG ) that know the truth behind the Will of D and the Void History.

- Killing WB could have meant taking one step closer to sweeping things under the rug completely.

- Buggy could be the WG's way into Raftel.

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There's another one who knows what is the will of the d

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_p...58/c591/6.html

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like he says the D gonna cause a storm again
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like he says the D gonna cause a storm again
Dr. Kureha said the same thing when she saw Luffy's wanted poster. It means that they know of it, but it doesn't prove that they know what it is. Roger was a D, so you can see why someone having a similar name would raise a few eye brows.

So far only the Roger pirates, the Ohara scholars and the upper echelon of the WG have had panel confirmation that they have knowledge of it.

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It's one thing to know the full meaning, and its another to know bits and pieces. There are probably more people who have an inkling about it, or just know that it is something, but dont comprehend it to its fullest extent.

edit: If we are guessing about who might know some stuff about it, I'm guessing shakky might know some. I know she wasn't a part of Roger's crew, however she seems very knowledgeable and has been with Rayleigh for a while. I know there is no apparent reason for him to tell her, but I think its a possibility.

Of course, this is just a guess
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[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4



Which without any * would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4


Another way of doing it would be to cut and paste the second part of the quote tag after the first section of text you want to seperate then write your reply select the second part and hit he quote button (it looks like a text bubble),if you do that without anything else the end result would be

[*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164]Ok Stubborn donkey,[*/QUOTE]
My reply 1
[*QUOTE] how do you break it up please[*/QUOTE]
my reply 2
[*QUOTE]and if your not willingly to tell me, [*/QUOTE]
my reply 3
[*QUOTE]then please DONT offer me no advice in future[*/QUOTE]
my reply 4

Which would look like

Quote:
Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Ok Stubborn donkey,
My reply 1
Quote:
how do you break it up please
my reply 2
Quote:
and if your not willingly to tell me,
my reply 3
Quote:
then please DONT offer me no advice in future
my reply 4

To make it like the previous example (which wpuld be preferred, though not necessary ) copy the part that says who posted with the link to the post and paste it accordingly to the proper part in each first half of each quote tag. In my I would copy =minato uchiha;2118164 and paste it where the # is
[*QUOTE#] to get [*QUOTE=minato uchiha;2118164] (of course with the * removed)


Of course you can use any other method you like to get to the end result, but now that you know what the end rwsult looks like I think there shouldnt be any problems

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Re: The Will of D

Don't forget Oda did state something about a member "Bronze" in an SBS.
What I'd like to know is what is the Will of D?
I think Joy Boy maybe the initial carrier since he lived during the Void Century and made a pact with the Fishman of that time.

As for other people who might know, not sure but I'd like to think that maybe the Country of Elbaff or its leaders since their lifespan is much longer than the normal humans.
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Who could joy boy be o.o such an odd name
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