Naruto 527 Predictions/Spoiler Discussion - Page 4

Numinous · 02-08-2011, 05:29 AM

And RAJIN is still on with the "competition" crap. Why are the morons the most loud?

jericho Uzimaki · 02-08-2011, 11:41 AM

i don't think Kishi is racist at all. He is doing what ALL other manga/anime creators do that are from Japan. They pretty much only know how Japanese are(or their opinion of how they are0, with the other races all they know is what is on TV or movies.
1. Blacks-usually portrayed with a stereo typical "Afro" type style. Such as braids or dreads or a simple Afro. Also don't forget the big lips.
2. Whites-usually the struggling to learn something type. But never learn it the way it is supposed to be learned. In the end they make it their own by improving it somehow.
Also they usually are the ones with wise cracks or being disrespectful.
3.Latinos-mild mannered but have quick tempers that are set off by small things or something the other characters don't realize upsets them.

1ex.-the black guy from bleach w/ the fro and the cloud village(especially A).

2ex.-Ichigo, Naruto

3ex.-Sakura,Kushina, that little girl in Bleach.(she hangs w/ that kid w/ the bat)

Also i always thought Cloud village politically repped N. Korea. do shit against the "policies" but never get punished. Rock village is (politically) China, making their military strong but no one outside has a real idea of what they have.

stubborn_d0nkey · 02-08-2011, 11:50 AM

dont compare em to countries, compare em to star trek. ex. konoha=federation

Numinous · 02-08-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jericho Uzimaki

i don't think Kishi is racist at all.

Nobody is accusing Kishi of being racist, we're just saying he pretty much plays with stereotypes that everyone and their mothers know about.

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He is doing what ALL other manga/anime creators do that are from Japan. They pretty much only know how Japanese are(or their opinion of how they are0, with the other races all they know is what is on TV or movies.

So a little of research or at least an aversion/subversion of the stereotypes can't be done by the mangaka because?

I also have stereotypes in my manga, but they're there for being debunked (like I already did with amyl nitrite)

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3.Latinos-mild mannered but have quick tempers that are set off by small things or something the other characters don't realize upsets them.

THIS, AS A LATINO, ANGERS ME!!!

Joking

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3ex.-Sakura

If Sakura is a Latina, then something is very, VERY wrong...

Dagoro · 02-08-2011, 12:59 PM

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3ex.-Sakura,Kushina, that little girl in Bleach.(she hangs w/ that kid w/ the bat)

Lol wut ?

Sakura/Kushina are your typical sudo Tsundere type characters, very common in japanese story telling. Your generalization of Latinos is also pretty baseless. Sakura/Kushina resemble nothing Latina.

This be a latina son. I know we aren't talking about looks but i felt like posting that pic !!!

kael03 · 02-08-2011, 01:00 PM

Also, how the fuck do you consider Ururu Latina? Seriously? She doesn't have a temper, her personality goes into "kill mode" when she senses a hollow, that's it.

superninja · 02-08-2011, 01:11 PM

That chick from cloud village that beat Naruto, maybe she is latina. Omoi could be latino maybe.

jeanericuser · 02-08-2011, 01:14 PM

I swear these spoiler issues get more annoying every week. First asshole trolls that need to be treated to a woodchipper slide surprise. Then fake spoilers posted. If you are gonna post a spoiler make sure its confirmed. As for adding your own two cents about that, put it in here not in the spoiler section. That way those of us hoping for a spoiler update do not have to deal with instead reading someone blab their opinion about something.

Edit: Super, isnt she black though? These racial ethnicity conflicts are about as annoying as orochimaru singing karaoke country music.

superninja · 02-08-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanericuser

Super, isnt she black though? These racial ethnicity conflicts are about as annoying as orochimaru singing karaoke country music.

She is dark skinned, but could still be latina with a darker complex.

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orochimaru singing karaoke country music.

wtf..........Oro is my favorite country singer.

Numinous · 02-08-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by superninja

That chick from cloud village that beat Naruto, maybe she is latina. Omoi could be latino maybe.

They're both black.

For those who don't know what Latinos(as) are about, here's 3 words that define us: sensuality, passion (as in devotion to something and the will to protect it at all costs) and "saudade" (a Portuguese word that has no correspondence in English, but it's a mix of nostalgia, fatalism, desire, happiness and sadness, emptiness and fulfillment for something that has been lost; "I miss you" is a very, very vague notion of "saudade", since it doesn't carry the huge impact of it).

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Originally Posted by jeanericuser
As for adding your own two cents about that, put it in here not in the spoiler section. That way those of us hoping for a spoiler update do not have to deal with instead reading someone blab their opinion about something.

Sorry about that, but RAJIN only appears on the spoiler threads, so posting here to tell him he's committing mistakes is the same as talking to a wall.

superninja · 02-08-2011, 01:41 PM

Ok Numinous, you know more than me about latinos since your from Portugal, I guess there are no latino inspired characters in Naruto. If there was one, I would demand that the character has small mustache or a goatee and that he uses a rapier sword, also he would have to carry a red rose between his teeth.

Numinous · 02-08-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by superninja

If there was one, I would demand that the character has small mustache or a goatee and that he uses a rapier sword

We already have a Zorro expy. It's called Roronoa Zoro and it's in One Piece (and he's much better than anything Kishi can throw at us).

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also he would have to carry a red rose between his teeth.

I think you don't want this Kishi-fied, right?

Ero-Sage · 02-08-2011, 02:31 PM

Stereotypes are just funny most of the time. Thats all. Doesn't matter that they're true or not but usually everyone can laugh at them. Lest we forget this is a cartoon we're talking about...

I think they can be cool too. Especially when they embrace and celebrate the uniqueness of the race being portrayed Afro Samurai for example.

blake · 02-08-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Numinous

Nobody is accusing Kishi of being racist, we're just saying he pretty much plays with stereotypes that everyone and their mothers know about.

So a little of research or at least an aversion/subversion of the stereotypes can't be done by the mangaka because?

exactly, hes not racist. just a lazy writer who doesnt wanna do research into other cultures. If im writing a story, im not just gonna assume that cultures are like what I see on Tv. Id look a little bit deeper into it. Afros arent even that big in the black community anymore. More guys have low cuts than fro's.

kael03 · 02-08-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ero-Sage

Stereotypes are just funny most of the time. Thats all.

Really? So the stereotype of black men not taking care of their kids is funny? Mexicans are lazy and nap all day is funny? All Asians know "Kung Fu" is funny? All Muslims hate America and want to destroy us is funny?

By the way, I'm not trying to be funny here, I'm trying to make a point for this bigot.

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jericho Uzimaki ANBU Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,619 Thanks: 1,892 Thanked 1,559 Times in 504 Posts	Re: Naruto 527 Predictions/Spoiler Discussion i don't think Kishi is racist at all. He is doing what ALL other manga/anime creators do that are from Japan. They pretty much only know how Japanese are(or their opinion of how they are0, with the other races all they know is what is on TV or movies. 1. Blacks-usually portrayed with a stereo typical "Afro" type style. Such as braids or dreads or a simple Afro. Also don't forget the big lips. 2. Whites-usually the struggling to learn something type. But never learn it the way it is supposed to be learned. In the end they make it their own by improving it somehow. Also they usually are the ones with wise cracks or being disrespectful. 3.Latinos-mild mannered but have quick tempers that are set off by small things or something the other characters don't realize upsets them. 1ex.-the black guy from bleach w/ the fro and the cloud village(especially A). 2ex.-Ichigo, Naruto 3ex.-Sakura,Kushina, that little girl in Bleach.(she hangs w/ that kid w/ the bat) Also i always thought Cloud village politically repped N. Korea. do shit against the "policies" but never get punished. Rock village is (politically) China, making their military strong but no one outside has a real idea of what they have. __________________ Gamble Joshua the Rogue Transformers:Generations For NaruHina fans First Orange knuckle head ninja The Question

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kael03 Aspiring Physicist Join Date: May 2010 Age: 27 Posts: 4,659 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 8,590 Times in 3,811 Posts	Re: Naruto 527 Predictions/Spoiler Discussion Also, how the fuck do you consider Ururu Latina? Seriously? She doesn't have a temper, her personality goes into "kill mode" when she senses a hollow, that's it.

02-08-2011, 01:11 PM	#52
superninja ANBU Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,841 Thanks: 190 Thanked 691 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Naruto 527 Predictions/Spoiler Discussion That chick from cloud village that beat Naruto, maybe she is latina. Omoi could be latino maybe. __________________ The great off panel war has begun...also called the war of one panel because most fights started and ended in one panel. Also Kin and Gin as substitute for kyuubi chakra (the greatest amount of chakra in Naruto world) is something Kishi pulled out of his ass. I lost major respect. It would be like near the end of LOTR there happens to be another slightly weaker ring and Sauron is like "that will do". It kind of shits on everything established up to that point. It kind of insults my intelligence.

02-08-2011, 01:14 PM	#53
jeanericuser Predictomatic 9000 Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 33 Posts: 707 Thanks: 72 Thanked 1,053 Times in 229 Posts	Re: Naruto 527 Predictions/Spoiler Discussion I swear these spoiler issues get more annoying every week. First asshole trolls that need to be treated to a woodchipper slide surprise. Then fake spoilers posted. If you are gonna post a spoiler make sure its confirmed. As for adding your own two cents about that, put it in here not in the spoiler section. That way those of us hoping for a spoiler update do not have to deal with instead reading someone blab their opinion about something. Edit: Super, isnt she black though? These racial ethnicity conflicts are about as annoying as orochimaru singing karaoke country music. Last edited by jeanericuser; 02-08-2011 at 01:18 PM.

02-08-2011, 01:41 PM	#56
superninja ANBU Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,841 Thanks: 190 Thanked 691 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Naruto 527 Predictions/Spoiler Discussion Ok Numinous, you know more than me about latinos since your from Portugal, I guess there are no latino inspired characters in Naruto. If there was one, I would demand that the character has small mustache or a goatee and that he uses a rapier sword, also he would have to carry a red rose between his teeth. __________________ The great off panel war has begun...also called the war of one panel because most fights started and ended in one panel. Also Kin and Gin as substitute for kyuubi chakra (the greatest amount of chakra in Naruto world) is something Kishi pulled out of his ass. I lost major respect. It would be like near the end of LOTR there happens to be another slightly weaker ring and Sauron is like "that will do". It kind of shits on everything established up to that point. It kind of insults my intelligence.

02-08-2011, 02:31 PM	#58
Ero-Sage Perverted Hermit Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In a van down by the river. Posts: 884 Thanks: 1,242 Thanked 379 Times in 215 Posts	Re: Naruto 527 Predictions/Spoiler Discussion Stereotypes are just funny most of the time. Thats all. Doesn't matter that they're true or not but usually everyone can laugh at them. Lest we forget this is a cartoon we're talking about... I think they can be cool too. Especially when they embrace and celebrate the uniqueness of the race being portrayed Afro Samurai for example.

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