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Old 05-11-2011, 06:23 PM   #91
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Like geocentrism is true because the sun moves in the sky, amirite? You're painting us as negativity paragons for the sake of being negativity paragons, when we're pretty much pointing out the flaws of the manga. God spare you from visiting Rotten Tomatos, TGWTG or a professional critic.

My advice to you and Rasenganja is to grow a thicker skin.

And nobody's telling you to not do so, you just have to acknowledge that others' opinions aren't made of air and wind. Really, this whole discussion started from Rasenganja being a douchebag towards k-lai, that only typed 3 words with no inflection whatsoever.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:25 PM   #92
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How many times was naruto consumed by the hatred of the fox? Everytime he cloaked during the entire manga.. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. Narutos HATRED is no longer the bridge between his and the kyubi's chakra..
That is hunky dory and all but this chapter still brought nothing new to the series. I'll allude to the Ino-Chika-Chou vs fake Jink guy once more, Kishi could have done something new with them since the enemy was ( at least was supposed to be ) powerful. We however got the same crap they used in the FOD test, which was just unconscionable.

Like Numinous said writing like this is just insulting, we are not the twilight fandom.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:29 PM   #93
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How many times was naruto consumed by the hatred of the fox? Everytime he cloaked during the entire manga.. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. Narutos HATRED is no longer the bridge between his and the kyubi's chakra..
Umm, remember the "True Naruto" hugfest? Yeah. That already happened. That's why Naruto was able to bitchslap the Kyuubi in the first place. That's why he can use RSM at all. Nothing new has been brought to the table here. Seriously. Chill the fuck out and stop being retarded.
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I prefer the introduction of the "combat" and "harmony" hand signs now opposed to some flashback right before or right after they do it when they fight again. Now that would be retarded and a waste during whats supposed to be the greatest fight of the manga, dont ya think. With the skipping of neji, kakashis, ect fights with golems, this konaha ritual must play a bigger role for kishi to waste an entire chapter now when the juubi is ready to be complete (supposedly), sasuke should be ready for action and naruto is close to the battle field. This ritual must play an important role for kishi to introduce it now instead of right before or right after its done IMO.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:36 PM   #95
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Umm, remember the "True Naruto" hugfest? Yeah. That already happened. That's why Naruto was able to bitchslap the Kyuubi in the first place. That's why he can use RSM at all. Nothing new has been brought to the table here. Seriously. Chill the fuck out and stop being retarded.
But the kyubii talks about naruto givng into him once he see's his friends dying "AS IF" there is still a chance of naruto actually submitting to the 9 tailed cloak again.

He says.
"If they kill your friends it will bring that much more hatred into your life!'

"Are you going to take out every single foe before they kill anyone?!"

"You dont understand anything you gullible fool, Can you really bear or erase all that rage, that hate?!"

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Ya we did youre a 100% right on that but,we never got to see how the direct relationship between Naruto and the Kyubi was affected. This chapter showed us that.
Wow you're dense as hell. Read the other responses to your post since they basically said what I was going to.
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But the kyubii talks about naruto givng into him once he see's his friends dying "AS IF" there is still a chance of naruto actually submitting to the 9 tailed cloak again.

He says.
"If they kill your friends it will bring that much more hatred into your life!'

"Are you going to take out every single foe before they kill anyone?!"

"You dont understand anything you gullible fool, Can you really bear or erase all that rage, that hate?!"
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"If they kill your friends it will bring that much more hatred into your life!'
Because Naruto in no way, shape, or form went batshit insane the last time someone (almost) murdered one of his friends. Oh wait yes he did. He nearly wiped Konoha off the map.

Let's stop and reconsider the fact that Naruto is now aware of the fact that Madara Uchiha : Naruto :: Itachi : Sasuke, except without the whole "I'm sacrificing everything so that the world is a better place" dynamic Itachi has. You think he would just go with it hippie-jesus style if someone he cared about died because of Madara? The Kyuubi is the one who makes sense.
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Because Naruto in no way, shape, or form went batshit insane the last time someone (almost) murdered one of his friends. Oh wait yes he did. He nearly wiped Konoha off the map.

Let's stop and reconsider the fact that Naruto is now aware of the fact that Madara Uchiha : Naruto :: Itachi : Sasuke, except without the whole "I'm sacrificing everything so that the world is a better place" dynamic Itachi has. You think he would just go with it hippie-jesus style if someone he cared about died because of Madara? The Kyuubi is the one who makes sense.
I do not think naruto will lose control to the kyubi if someone dies no, not after how far hes come i doubt we will ever see an episode like that of the pain arc ever again.. No doubt he would avenge but not give away control. && that was before he gained this level of control over the kyubii. this is a different naruto..

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Old 05-11-2011, 06:56 PM   #99
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I do not think naruto will lose control to the kyubi if someone dies no, not after how far hes come i doubt we will ever see an episode like that of the pain arc ever again. No doubt he would avenge but not give away control.
@ bolded: But doesn't that go against his messianic goals, to stop vendettas and hatred (no matter how unrealistic that is)?

Even you, who supposedly is defending this plot point, point out why it doesn't make sense in the first place!
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I do not think naruto will lose control to the kyubi if someone dies no, not after how far hes come i doubt we will ever see an episode like that of the pain arc ever again.. No doubt he would avenge but not give away control. && that was before he gained this level of control over the kyubii. this is a different naruto..
And here we return to the fact that Naruto is still obsessed with Sasuke, and is still flying blind in his dogmatic quest for "peace". Naruto's only shown development when he's been dead serious and not focused on Sasuke. And you know when he's been dead serious? When he was out for goddamn revenge against Pain. And you know what happened when he was out to kill Pain? Hinata getting stabbed sent him off the edge, over the cliff, and straight into psychotic fury.

I mean shit. Naruto's even regressed regarding Sasuke. He at least accepted that he would probably have to kill the bastard before the War arc. Now he's back to craving Uchiha cock.
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Wow you're dense as hell. Read the other responses to your post since they basically said what I was going to.
But we never got to see the Kyubi and Naruto have an actual conversation after the new seal was enforced.. THAT WAS NEW! no doubt about it.

What you guys do is talk alot of bullshit CLEARLY show me where i was wrong
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But we never got to see the Kyubi and Naruto have an actual conversation after the new seal was enforced.. THAT WAS NEW! no doubt about it.
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And here we return to the fact that Naruto is still obsessed with Sasuke, and is still flying blind in his dogmatic quest for "peace". Naruto's only shown development when he's been dead serious and not focused on Sasuke. And you know when he's been dead serious? When he was out for goddamn revenge against Pain. And you know what happened when he was out to kill Pain? Hinata getting stabbed sent him off the edge, over the cliff, and straight into psychotic fury.

I mean shit. Naruto's even regressed regarding Sasuke. He at least accepted that he would probably have to kill the bastard before the War arc. Now he's back to craving Uchiha cock.
I didnt see any of that this chapter naruto didnt say anything about sasuke the KYUBI brought that man up..
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Gee... I thought the relationship between Naruto and the Kyuubi was demonstrated right after he had his heart to heart about how mom and dad met and died then without any effort, bitchsmacked the kyuubi around and TOOK HIS POWERS AWAY FROM HIM!

Conveniently forget about that trash, have we?

EDIT: And I'd like to add that Vengeance has been pretty much spot on with what is glaringly obvious; Naruto is truly clueless when it comes to Sasuke. Despite everyone telling him that Sasuke has been consumed by darkness and hatred, he refuses to give up, despite the fact that they have had a terrible friendship since the beginning. The simple fact that Sasuke called Naruto his greatest friend at VotE demonstrates how unhinged Sasuke has become from all society and truly is beyond true saving. I thought it had come about after the Danzo fight that Naruto would see the madness and hatred within Sasuke, yet he continues to want to save rather that stop or kill Sasuke. He's willing to die for a guy who barely acknowledged him ever, when everyone else thinks he's pretty strong and noteworthy now.

Consider the initial theme was to be a great and powerful ninja, greater than the Hokage, this flashback has redefined Naruto's lifelong dream as being about Sasuke, not about being acknowledged through hard work (which was also betrayed by Naruto being son of the fourth and the mythically powerful Uzimaki).
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@ bolded: But doesn't that go against his messianic goals, to stop vendettas and hatred (no matter how unrealistic that is)?

Even you, who supposedly is defending this plot point, point out why it doesn't make sense in the first place!
Well if naruto was in battle and one of his comrades died. i believe he would attack to kill but not be consumed in a cloak of hatred and destroy a whole city.
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