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haloswift

he has no choise the bug's will attack him if he doesn't use kaiten

he can also use divine 128 strikes and hope shino doesn't have more bug's inside of him

Impulse

You are completely underestimating Neji. Even if that were to happen, I doubt Shino has enough bugs to outlast Neji. Yes, Shino has a body full of bugs, but he doesn't have an infinite amount. Neji's hands are fast, and I mean damn fast, there is no way that Neji would even let one bug on him.

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haloswift

his hand can be fast but it stays 128 strike's
+ look how many bug's shino had we he fought the musik guy
+ shino is't stupid unlike naruto to let his bug's go one by one
+ shino thinks forward, he uses a suprise attack, while neji hit's the bug's to hell, he'll send a bug to his weak point an absorb his chakra

Impulse

LOL, and one bug can absorb ALL his chakra? There is no way Shino can find out about Neji's weak point, I said it the last time someone mentioned it. The way Kidoumaru found out about was way more complex and he never even let Neji get close to him. I find it impossble for Shino with only little Kikai bugs. I never said that Shino would attack Neji with only one bug, I said that it'd be impossible for even one bug to get on Neji. There's a difference. And by music guy, I hope you mean Zaku. One Kaiten could easily wipe out that many bugs. This is why Neji has Byakugan, he can see 360 degrees around him. There's no way Shino could plan a "sneak/surprise attack." Neji's reaction is just too quick.

I'm gonna watch some FMA, have fun.

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haloswift

reaction hasen't anything to do with it

it he doesn't kill the attacking bug's he'll be a down so the (suprise bug) supises him he hit's that bug of his neck, the rest attackes an he's defeated

and a'm not talking about that attack

bug's surround him
shino uses al long range attack
he uses kaiten because he can't go away
shino does the same thing again and again (while he prepares the stupise attack)
neji still uses kaiten for the bugs an shino's attack's (neji is still surounded by bug's, an run's low on chakra)
just when kaiten is over the bug attack's him from his blind spot
he's suprised and attack's the bug on his neck
then the other bug's attack an
he can't use kaiten no more (no chakra left)
he lose

haloswift

but you're right
shino doesn't know about neji's blind spot

Impulse

What? English please. I don't understand wtf you're talking about.

You said it yourself, that Shino doesn't know about the blind spot, yet you state that the bugs will attack him from his blind spot. Make up your mind. And this has a lot to do with quick reactions. When Neji's Kaiten stopped during the Kidoumaru match, he threw the kunai, and guess what? Neji released chakra at the right time to deflect the kunai. Now, tell me, reaction doesn't have to do anything with this match, you say?

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flareofdragon

Alright the Kaiten deflecting 10 sand ninjas, that wasn't Neji, and that Kaiten's range was a lot further than his. Result? Neji's Kaiten's weaker.

Anyway, lets say Shino's bug surrounds Neji. Neji uses Kaiten, when he stops releasing chakra and he loses his momentum, what stops bug(s) from jumping on Neji? And say one is female, now Neji can't hide, can he?

Oh and the Field of Divination, You and I both know that Shino would cover a lot more chakra points with his bugs. And all I am saying is that unlike most shinobi, Shino doesn't need hand seals, he just needs to be releasing a bit of chakra from key points of his body. Shino blocks those chakra points with his bugs, what good does the sealing do? Unless Neji does this attack 2x in a row, I doubt anything would change.

Oh and normally I would defend Neji, so I know how he fights, you don't have to talk about his speed and what not. Thats my job.

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haloswift

reaction doesn't have anything to do with divination 64/128 strike's
that's what I mean't

Impulse

Whether it's Neji's Kaiten or not, his range is big enough to deflect little bugs far enough so they don't cause that much problems for him.

That will only happen if Neji lets him. Neji would not be dumb enough to stand around and let the bugs surround and take advantage of him. He "knows the stories of the Aburame clan." I'd say Neji would come after Shino until he finds an opportunity to completely immbolize Shino. I'm not saying Shino wouldn't do the same either.

So you're saying if Neji does use Field of Divination twice, he would manage to cut Shino's chakra flow and cause damage to his organs? Okay, I'm going to try to explain this as best as I can. What I'm trying to say is that Shino does not have enough bugs to block all the chakra holes. I know you don't want me to say this but Neji forces the chakra in. It's not like normal chakra flowing through the circulatory system, it's forced chakra that he forced in. What I'm trying to say is Shino would need more than a few bugs to block one chakra hole opening. That being said, there's 361 tenketsus, would Shino really be able to cover all to protect himself from Neji?

It's fun debating with you.

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flareofdragon

Oi, but I am saying that Shino doesn't need to block every single chakra points, he just has to block his main ones, the ones he uses to communicate with his bugs. And we know he has enough bugs to do that because we know he has enough bugs to make his own replica. They could be some sort of an armor, the same thing that the spider guy used. Neji could, well lets say will, hit half of the chakra points, but Shino can still control his bugs. Did Neji's attack get anywhere? No. Sure he blocked chakra flow, but Shino can still use his jutsu, won't he?

Oh and I know how he blocks the points.

And I am not saying that Neji would be dumb enought to let bugs surround him. I am questioning if the bugs can get on Neji after he finishes the Kaiten. Shino does have kunai's and a whole lot of bugs to help him attack from all directions. Neji will use the Kaiten, thats a given, so when he stops, won't the bugs get on him? (Neji would be still spinning from the momentum of the Kaiten)

And yes Neji and Shino would be a lot smarter in their fights than what we are portaying, but I just can't see Neji winning when his techniques needs to release chakra and Shino's bugs feed on chakra.

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Impulse

You said it yourself, Neji could hit half of Shino's chakra points, so that being said, he stopped the chakra flow, but doesn't he also do damage to the inner organs? You saw what happened to Kidoumaru when Neji hit him with Jyuuken. His inner organs were damaged, severely damaged.

Yes, and at the moment, when Kaiten starts slowing down, he is doomed. I agree with you on that. But I'm saying Neji would never let the bugs surround him and force him into that situation. Neji would be coming at Shino since the beginning of the match to prevent that from happening instead of just standing around waiting for the bugs to come and devour his chakra.

The only way for Shino's bugs to feed on chakra at full extent is that they are completely on Neji. Or when Neji releases his chakra into Shino's chakra circulatory system, they might get a little feast, but the attack will also cause direct damage to the organs as said in the anime/manga.

Well, I have to admit, after just watching episode 148 again, I'm beginning to doubt Neji could even win this at all. I admit it. From what I've seen of Shino in 148, he is able to release and control the bugs quicker than you and I both thought (when Naruto fell and Shino used the bugs to catch him almost immediately).

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#1 Bad Guy

Exactly my point from the begining. Shino uses his bugs almost like an extention of him and it seems like they can pretty much do anything he wants them to. Not only that but it also seems like he hass alot of bugs at his disposal. Aside from hitting them out the way, Neji wouldnt be able to do much more. Neji has to get close to attack and Shino's bugs allow him to keep his distance. Plus im pretty sure Neji would run out of chakra long beofre Shino runs out of bugs. And although it takes more than one bug to stop Neji, it would only take one to make him slowly start loosing his chakra. After that its only a matter of time till he wears down and more bugs will get to him thus wearing him down completely. So i still say, Shino would win.

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flareofdragon

Now I do agree that Shino would win, but I do not believe he would lose too much chakra from one bug.

Oh and another thing, Field of Divination is so fast because its not aiming for the organs, rather the chakra points. This means that Neji does not have to do heavy damage, he is just doing quick light attacks. Thus I do not think his organs would be affected.

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