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Old 08-03-2011, 03:27 PM   #16
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Says who? Show me one panel of an EMS user doing any jutsu's please. The only EMS was fighting Harashirma, and lost, that battle hasn't been televised..... EMS Techs, and setups are guesses, thats all. One can piece together a few things that has been said, but EMS techs have never been shown within the manga, thats fakt. Not hating, just saying.

I won't assume because already Itachi came off with a move with shurikens I'd never seen, or knew about during his Edo (under controlled) movements, and nobody knew exactly what was going on with the crow, so for me, its a who knows situation. Remember who's been telling most of this stuff... Madara he's the villan, he has to lie at some point, everything else is easily believed by most, but I understand the role of the 'villan' and not getting sucked in like others IMHO.
EMS is known as a flawless MS with a new doujutsu. As an EDO, the FLAWS of the MS are nuetralized making it like the EMS without the new jutsu by description.
I mean the biggest reason the RG has such an advantage over the MS is because of the MS's side effects (blindness, eye pain, ect).
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EMS is known as a flawless MS with a new doujutsu. As an EDO, the FLAWS of the MS are nuetralized making it like the EMS without the new jutsu by description.
I mean the biggest reason the RG gas usch an advantage over the MS is because of the MS's side effects (blindness, eye pain, ect).
You're information is from Itachi playing his role in character where he has obviously.lied before, and the oh so honest Madara whom has never explained any of his own jutsus, and the only known EMS user who'd. tell Sasuke whom he's gonna double cross correct?
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You're information is from Itachi playing his role in character where he has obviously.lied before, and the oh so honest Madara whom has never explained any of his own jutsus, and the only known EMS user who'd. tell Sasuke whom he's gonna double cross correct?
IMO Itachi was clearly training sasuke for his inevitable match with tobi once he gains the EMS. So by trying to take sasukes eyes, explaining madaras actions against his brother, comrade and telling sasuke how to gain the EMS. Itachi was only trying to not only tell sasuke how to gain the power to stop madara, but how to defend against madara taking his eyes as well.

And tobi explained as well that he achieved a perfect MS, meaning no flaws. So, by tobi/madaras own admission the EMS is like a flawless, perfect MS.
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Re: 551 prediction/spoiler

I said something in discussion & thought I'd just put it out there encase it happens. Nagato KO's Naruto grabs B & teleports away. Itachi goes in search for the hideout in an effort to save Naruto & runs into Sasuke. You heard it here first.

Edit: Just to add on B would need to be drained first which happens. Before Naruto is drained he's saved by someone (Kakashi, Itachi, or possibly even Sasuke). Madara uses Kin/Gin chakra to substitute for the Kyuubi & becomes the 10 tailed Jink.
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I made a prediction. No like seriously this time.

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(The scene focuses on Kabuto’s location. Kabuto smirks as he mulls something over in his head with a handseal in place.)

Kabuto (in thought): “Ku, ku, ku… So what if I had to remove Itachi from the playing board, I can't be bothered with Itachi, whatever he's up to at the moment. Regardless, if he's in Madara's or Konoha's hands, Sasuke will be mine. Nagato as he is now is such a powerful playing piece… Madara’s such a fool for not realizing its fullest potential.”

(The scene switches back over to the battle. Naruto, bounded by Nagato’s invisible summon and the power of Human realm, faces turmoil. In the nick of time, Killer Bee arrives to Naruto’s aide and quickly slashes Samehada horizontally near Nagato’s head, forcing Nagato to duck. Killer Bee, not holding back, grasps his hilt with both hands and swings Sameahda downward, diagonally, forcing Nagato to slip to the side and retreat backward. Naruto is free, as the soul link that bound Naruto’s soul to Nagato’s hand had dissipated and the invisible summon had let go of its hold. The scene focuses on Nagato for a quick second.)

Nagato: “Samehada… It canceled my chakra flow to my jutsu and my control over my summon. But only for a quick moment. If they’re smart, they’ll use this window of opportunity to devise a strategy against me before-.” (The scene switches back to Naruto and Killer Bee, they have immediately escaped to a safer location hidden in the woods.)

Killer Bee: “I nabbed some of my chakra back, but it wasn’t enough. From now on, I’ll have to thank ya for walking the tank!”

Naruto: “What!? Shit… (Naruto comes to a realization.) They’ll know what to do…” (As Killer Bee and Naruto hear sounds of discomfort, Killer Bee urges Naruto to get on with it.)

Killer Bee: “Get goin’ foo’!”

Naruto: “Summoning technique!” (As Naruto completes the string of handseals, the area is engulfed in a cloud of smoke. Seconds later, multiple clouds of smoke erupt again, almost like crackling fireworks… Nagato, from a distance, viewing the now leveled area as the clouds of smoke slowly vanish.)

Nagato: “I see, he’s pulling out all the stops, just like last time…”

(The scene focuses on the area of interest. As the clouds fade more, three large toad summons can be seen more clearly. In the center, is Gamabunta, to the right is Gamaken, and to the left, is the unnamed toad Jiraiya summoned a long time ago to visit Naruto in the hospital three years ago. As the smoke clears more, Naruto, with Fukasku and Shima on his shoulders, as well as Killer Bee, stand on top of Gamabunta’s head. The scene focuses on the heroes.)

Fukasku: “Just like ‘dat boy, takes after ‘em.”

Shima: “Always bringin’ us out at ‘da worst of times. Gotdammit!”

Naruto: “I’m sorry Gramps and Granny Sages, but there’s this jutsu that-“

Shima: “Shat up, don’t underestimate us!”

Fukasku: “We figured somethin’ was up with Gamahiro checked out… Now that I feel it for myself, a wicked jutsu must be at work. One that Jiraiya boy talked about when he spoked about his best friend. Had to be dat if I feel the same force that I’m feeling when the six ways eyes were upon us.”

Killer Bee: “Cut da chat! We dealin’ with an invisible!” (Shima nods, makes a handseal, and spits out her tongue, which has a mouth.)

Shima: “I’ll tell ya where it will pop from!” (From behind they hear destruction nearing their way. Gamaken is first to take action. He jumps behind everyone and uses his massive shield to parry the full force of Shinra tensei.)

Gamaken: “WOAH! GOOD LORD! IT’S STILL FLOWING!”

Fukasku: “Don’t give in son!“ (Shima looks to the right.)

Shima: “BUNTA, yer left, when I give you the signal.”

Gamabunta: “Got it ma’am!” (Gamabunta grasps the hilt of his dagger.)

Shima: “NOW!” (Bunta, quickly twists his body to the left and performs and quick thrust immediately after drawing his blade.)

Gamabunta: “Shit, it’s fast!”

Shima: “You fucked up! IN FRONT!” (The unnamed toad, with extreme speed and power zips in front of everyone, delivers a strong right punch, knocking the summon out cold, followed by dropping a leg on top of the summon, effectively ending its career. Both Killer Bee and Naruto are amazed.)

Fukasku: “That one’s taijtusu and speed outclasses all other toads from Toad Mt.”

(Now, all three huge toads position their backs to each other so that they could guard all openings. In a split second, a small, black sphere soars through the sky, immediately, it starts drawing any and all matter towards it. The Toads, Bee, Naruto, etc, are being drawn towards it.)

Gamaken: “OH NO!”

Gamabunta: “DAMMIT!”

Unnamed Toad: “HRRRGH!”

Killer Bee: “HOLY SHIT!”

Naruto: “CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!”

Shima: “Do somethin’ kid!”

Fukasku: “NAUTOOO!” (The two elders grasps Naruto’s shoulders, anchoring themselves to him. Naruto puts both of his hands together, splits them apart and forms an Oodama Rasengan…)

Naruto: “That black sphere that’s drawing everything to its center… Maybe I can destroy it!” (Shima smiles.)

Fukasku: “Good thinking!”

Naruto: “My aim has to be perfect; I’ll need a little help!”

(On the outside, it seems Chikbaku Tensei was a success. Seconds later a large explosion erupts as blue energy seeps from every opening . The prison starts to collapse, much to the dismay of Kabuto from another location. As the prison breaks apart, the toads, Naruto, and Killer Bee crash to the ground. They are all injured from the resulting ignition and collision. Naruto, slow to return to his feet, notices that Nagato’s standing right in front of his face.)

Nagato: “I hope this isn’t all you have to offer. If it is, I am truly sorry for the unbearable pain that’s to come…” (Naruto, stumbling, panting and sweating, watches as Nagato pulls out two chakra rods, one in each hand. Naruto lets out a grin.)

Naruto: “My pain is over once this pointless bloodshed cease.”

Nagato: “That’s what I like to hear.”

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I said something in discussion & thought I'd just put it out there encase it happens. Nagato KO's Naruto grabs B & teleports away. Itachi goes in search for the hideout in an effort to save Naruto & runs into Sasuke. You heard it here first.

Edit: Just to add on B would need to be drained first which happens. Before Naruto is drained he's saved by someone (Kakashi, Itachi, or possibly even Sasuke). Madara uses Kin/Gin chakra to substitute for the Kyuubi & becomes the 10 tailed Jink.
I still think itachis going to save naruto, then make them go help the army while he fights nagato.

nagato and itachi have an epicly close battle until itachi gets a momentary upper hand and almost hits nagato with the sword of totsuak which would defeat Nagato golem, but kabuto ends itachis Edo jutsu causing him to die and go back to the pure world.

Possibly nagato manages to get a hold of shisuis eye in the crow and has nagato take it so he can then Edo shisui so we can see what the fuss was about, if he was a real person and not some tobi or danzou trick.
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^^Just the way I want it
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Im praying for Nagato vs. Itachi

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IMO Nagato vs Itachi is how it should be. Pain paths vs itachi since the pain paths were a RG+Gedo mazo+6 random other people jutsu.

One on one, MS vs RG...... First one to deliver a death blow can be considered the stronger since they cant actually die.
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Rinnegan, its not close, not vs. MS.... EMS I don't know, nobodies actualy seen it yet.
It depends on the abilities of MS. Itachi's free whereas Nagato's still someone's slave. Point: MS.
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LOL. I just realized Itachi intended for Naruto to brain wash Sasuke into being obedient to the village. This still doesn't explain why Itachi couldn't activate it himself during their battle if it could activate hnow.
Itachi stated he still had plans for Sasuke that included his death and gaining his Mangekyo as part of Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyo. He wanted Sasuke to be strong enough to fight on even terms with Madara, which is why he didn't use Shisui's MS on him back in their fight. Not to mention at that time he had already passed it on to Naruto.
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But he still could've fought him then cast the genjutsu on him after Oro was gone. Or I dunno, mind control Tobi instead!
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It depends on the abilities of MS. Itachi's free whereas Nagato's still someone's slave. Point: MS.
You're correct, Itachi's Amaretsu... dispelled, 8tail Jink chakra drained, Naruto last panel in trouble, that poor Rinnegan user Nagato seems like he's in a world of trouble. Thats just a different chapter than I read this week. Point: Rinnegan. Go ask Konoha citizens which they fear more MS, or Rinnegan... Parking Lot, Points for Days: Rinnengan. MS no matter who would be outclassed by Nagato. Will Kabuto fuck up, prolly, he has his whole manga life, that dosen't do this though MS > Rinnengan. Thats simply false advertising against that Dojutsu.
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1 thing TSO

i don't think nagato has the chakra rods anymore

look at his body

hes not attached to gedo mazo, he's no longer the master of six paths, tobi is
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He can't just create them out of thin air?lol JK, I mean, I wouldn't put it past Nagato to be able to just shit those things out. We don't really know what substance they are of. Considering he can do just about everything all six realms could do in one body, I wouldn't put Nagato past anything.
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