LightDreamer

If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down xD LOL jking...[against ur pet peve]

Well you can be mr. cool college man, but I'm in grade 10! So THERE and I'm not ALLOWED to take Psychology, philiology philosophy, and whatever other phhh word you can think of..

Well than if this is all just a simple opinion thing, than this really isn't a debate this is just a question -.-;

Well still, humans IN COMPARISON are evil. Because you can't call something other than humans evil, without first realizing that humans are more evil. SO if there is anyone out there who thinks something other than humans are evil, than they must also be agreeing that humans are evil. Because there is no one out there that believes every single thing every single human has ever done, is entirely good, that is probably worse than any animal or plant, or even disease has done...Therefore, if everyone in the world calls something ohter than humans evil, than everyone in the world must also agree Humans are evil.

Aslo, I doubt there are any humans who think oxygen and water is evil =T and if there ARE some, there opinions don't count because they're probably dead.

P.S I hate sharks. They are Evil. EVIILLLL, but that doesn't make them more evil than humans...close...CLOSE...But no. And I sitll hate sharks.

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Dosu

I don't think humans are evil, were're certainly not the most upstanding citisens of the world, but we arn't really evil. Granted, we do some pretty bad things, we pollute, (not that I hugely care lol) we kill, we wage wars, we do plenty of things that could fesibly clissify us as evil (thats probably why so many movies do) but at the same time, we create art, music, literature, we push forward despite overwhelming odds. I mean the problem is, that people look at one extreme or the other, you either have the anti war activist who thinks humans are evil for killing so many people, or you have the touchy feely cousiler types who think people are good, the fact is, were're not really either (one might outweigh the other occasionally) were're kind of in the middle.

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cloud-san

i think humans are good and evil coz there not allways good and not always evil

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blazin yukasho

im still going with neutral, its all down to chioce

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DarkAztek

I don't think humans are evil by comparison. Either way, we're selfish animals. Therefore, we're not evil... To me, at least. You think that we are, so we are. To you.

Too much straight oxygen can kill you. Too much water in the lungs (or in the body) can kill you. Plus there are always the mentally deranged. To them, it might be evil. Therefore, it is. To them.

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There is no line between good and evil. What one considers good may be considered evil for another, and vice versa

LightDreamer

Humans aren't evil in comparison to what? and technically we're not classified as 'animals' we're mammals.

I know the air we breathe isn't made up of 100% oxygen more like 5% and the air has more nitrogen in it than oxygen. But still, that doesn't make oxygen evil. We're like 80% water =T 'nough said.

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DarkAztek

You're the one that said humans are evil by comparison to animals. I don't think so.

...And yeah. We ARE classified as animals. That is our Kingdom. We are in Kingdom Animalia, Phylum Chordata, Subphylum Vertebrata, Class Mammalia, Subclass Eutheria, Order Primata, Family Hominidae, Genus Homo, and Species Homo Sapiens. (Yes, I had to look a few of those up. )

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kenokuvato

You can't classify us all as a whole, but you have to take it person by person. I personally want to be as evil as possible.

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dub zero

Well, for the most part, to make a long debate short:

Neutral. We aren't good, but we aren't that bad either.

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Kagami Kyoji

animals cant be mammals? since when?

I wouldnt go as far as to say that good and evil dont exist its just more of the title which one places. There are no set rules for good and evil and certainly no clear outlook on it. Sure it may seem as if there we no such thing as good and evil but, I believe they exist as symbols. People represent different ideas with symbols and with generalizations and discriminations we can group and separate ideas into managable concepts and place a nice little tag on them that say "good" and "evil". Although true there is no such thing as this is evil or this is good let me presume it means in general and its characteristics overall. Someone could be "good" one minute then "bad" the next since I would be considered a relativist on the issue I would say that the terms are used based on case by case examples and are varrying for different people. So what I think is bad may not be the same as what another would think. Which by definition would almost certainly mean that such concepts as good and evil do not exist. Since A and Not A cannot be the same. In other words if my definition of good is A and yours is NOT A but, instead a different concept them it would seem both would negate any truth.

However, based on the "generalized" model of good and evil and for arguments sake I would venture to say that humans are inately neutral. it is not so far fetched that humans COULD be programed at birth to be good or bad much like how a baby turtle at birth automatically knows to head towards the ocean. But, my understanding is that humans simply have a tendancy to use rationalization for lack of a better word.

Sound wierd? You bet ya! Because of it we can rationalize everything and justify our reasons with ration and thought. This is both a "good" and "bad" thing since it allows people to rationalize "bad" actions and "good" actions.

I wouldnt go as far to say that all people try to do what THEY think is right, but some do while others simply get thier "own". Its not a matter of whether we are good or bad its what can we obtain out of life and what can we achieve. Love, maternal instinct. I may just be acting a bit too cynical towards this but everything we do is for our own happiness which does include love and all the other variations of our so called term "good" actions. We do what we do for our own benefit. Of course this is open to a lot of attacks but, w/e. The problem with humans is that they try and label and solve everything. Adam and Eve bit from the tree of knowledge and cursed themselves. By arguing over what is right and what is not we simply place ourselves in the same situation as we try and place a nice nametag on issues as being right or wrong when in fact there is NO clear truth to anything. Killing someone? good or bad? Its neither!

The first step to understanding is comprehending that we know nothing. Nice phrase huh. Dont remember who said it but, yeah. I am a Descarte fan and my believe is that you cannot know anything other than your own consciousness. And if anyone rides me about the cartesian circle then screw off, that soley depends on whether or not there IS a truth.

Anyways, thats been my post for the week in the debates section. XD

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[Wait this is to Kagami Kyoji]
wat are u talking about...I never said animals can't be mammals, I said humans aren't 'Classified' as animals. -.-; we're classified as mammals >___> [End talking to Kagami too lazy to put in all the codes]

How can we not be evil compared to animals, name me an animal that is more evil than us. And then maybe i'll take back wat I said.

we are not part of the animal kingdom, a fail to remember seeing humans on 'The Lion King'. Of all the ones that I know up there...which is like 1, but I can guess wat the other ones mean.

THe one I do know is Homo Sapiens, and that's only cuase ppl in my school were going around saying 'Are you a homo sapien' becuase suddenly it's a hilarious word. And I don't recall knowing anything else that comes under that category except for humans, but I don't know much about it in the first place so correct me if I'm wrong.

For the Vertebrata, I'm guessing that has something to do with the vertebra, and yes we have vertebra but that doesn't make us animals.

Mammals are warm blooded living things, humans are mammals, fish are not animals. Pinguins are mammals, birds not. Birds = animals, not mammals.

I'm guessing mammalia is the mammal thing, I've already talked about that.

Primata, I can only guess is primates, which science proves we came from them, but humans are not monkeys.

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flareofdragon

You misunderstand, the species human is in the Animalia kingdom. Oh and penguins are birds, but they are still animals. So are reptiles and any other class of species that is not a fungi, a plant, a bactaria and protists.

Most humans place themselves seperate from animals though. Makes them feel superior.

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LightDreamer

I knowww, pinguins are birds, they're also mammals though. The only warm blooded bird out there I believe. Reptiles not mammals, still animals.

Mmkay getting out of hand from the topic >_>

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DarkAztek

No... Just no. Humans are classified as many things. I listed them all. Sheesh. Here's a link. And penguins are fucking birds. Look up taxonomy, please.

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